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Originally posted by Gambler75
Just a little FYI, using Bluesman's example - all MM dots were either 'normal' built or 'slow' built, we never popped off boosts at the start of a season, outside the final one - and then only if all ALG stats were done.

We had 20 dots that took the 5 initial boosts. We had 15 that took 3 initial boosts. We had 15 that took none of the initial ones. Just to see how the old build plans looked on each.

Wilfork was a 5 initial boost dot, he boosted somewhere ~D36-D40 most seasons, if we didn't win the first round w/o boosts, we waited til D40. The final season I think he took five 'lolearly' since he was working non-ALG stats (jump).

The gains on the 0/3 initial boost dots were 'moderate' at best. If we want to compare apples to apples Edelman (5 initial) and Outrun (3 initial) were only 3 SP apart at the end.

Reasoning for them ending nearly a wash? The extra intense pounding at the start of a 0 or 3 boost dot's life, you pay for at the end in terms of bonus tokens burned, eating away from the available days of quad training before hitting light trains. Outrun gained 1 more primary than Edelman by waiting, but lost out on almost an equal amount of SP value in the other stats. Edelman did also get lucky as hell in the shop, not sure how Outrun fared there.

As people experiment, I feel like the 0/3/5 initial boost builds will get further refined, and maybe that gap will grow on the 0 initial ones. I'm just happy despite a few build hiccups in this first cycle, we managed to break the 1500 barrier, something we never sniffed in the old system, I think our highest came in right around the 1460 mark.


Looking at your dots is telling me we gotta definitely tweak our build plan. You guys are awesome.

 
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Originally posted by Pwned
They are going to be a real problem for our conference..



probably only for a season.
 
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KC too low
 
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Mayan too low
 
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Originally posted by PLAYMAKERS
KC too low

Originally posted by PLAYMAKERS
Mayan too low


I should have just ranked everyone #1 so all the egos could fully inflate.
 
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Originally posted by Pwned
I should have just ranked everyone #1 so all the egos could fully inflate.


Dayton Triangles too high

 
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Originally posted by Pwned
I should have just ranked everyone #1 so all the egos could fully inflate.


 
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Originally posted by SmithsterSmitty
Dayton Triangles too high



Agreed! But I couldn't put us below Athens, and I couldn't put Athens any lower without my rankings being a joke. Cold hard facts. I think you need to be focused on London there pal, the stage is set for a third straight playoff upset.

 
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DCs wont be coordinating until playoffs since pros are so easy right?
 
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Originally posted by PLAYMAKERS
DCs wont be coordinating until playoffs since pros are so easy right?


Not this season! Probably starting next season when 12 of the best teams are no longer in Pro. But again, there are at least 10 very solid AAA teams coming to take those places, so maybe never. I would love for Pro to have cares again, and it not be an easy playoff spot for anyone with half a brain.

 
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Double post.

Edited by Pwned on Jan 10, 2024 18:41:14
 
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Agreed! But I couldn't put us below Athens, and I couldn't put Athens any lower without my rankings being a joke. Cold hard facts. I think you need to be focused on London there pal, the stage is set for a third straight playoff upset.



Hey... unneccessary kicking me in the junk. Don't remind me of the dreaded London F'n curse

 
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Originally posted by PLAYMAKERS
There was a whole lot of chatter about lolearlyboosters. 4 piece teams obviously on a different path but even a slow build 3 piece squad like hood came a little under Midnight, War machinr and Comets who were lolearlyboosters


yes, but we already discussed roster makeup affects that too
 
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yes, but we already discussed roster makeup affects that too


Of course. I am willing to bet 30+ teams have rosters good enough to win. Maybe even a few more teams than that. The difference is going to come down to AI and the plans and we know the best teams with that.

I just wanna have good games and make it interesting to watch. WL is secondary to that 'for me'

 
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Originally posted by SmithsterSmitty
Of course. I am willing to bet 30+ teams have rosters good enough to win. Maybe even a few more teams than that. The difference is going to come down to AI and the plans and we know the best teams with that.

I just wanna have good games and make it interesting to watch. WL is secondary to that 'for me'



I was referring to his EL

Comets are 4 points ahead of HOOD

But we have 2 more TE, which are 5 AE dots, or about 70-90 points lower than a 4 AE dot

we also have HHLB which are lower EL than coverage LB
 
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