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King of Bling
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To me, un-boosted dots (L15/16) winning or getting runner-up for MVP in their leagues is waaay more impressive than a L20-25 dot taking it.
Just my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt. Here is a list of the underclassmen who finished 1st or 2nd in MVP voting in their respective leagues, by position:

MVP:
ADAMS:
D - Gunner Swift https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4845965
D - Red Mantle https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4851328
ST - Forrest Gump https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4848315
K/P - Reset Dot 007 https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4845312

HARRISON:
ST - GOATS Mike Nelms https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4849466

JACKSON:
K/P - Randy Tessin https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4851821

JEFFERSON:
O - Sir Ken Stabler https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4850627

MONROE:
ST - kick returnist https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4844939
ST - Billy "White Shoes" Johnson https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4841974

TYLER:
D - Malik Bigsby https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4850964



MVP Runner-up

ADAMS:
O - KoB's Ken Anderson https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4843628
D - Doctor. Mrs. The Monarch https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4851320
ST - Tyson Junior https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4849771
K/P - Pierre Saxton https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4843246

JEFFERSON:
O - Dayton Hurley https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4851579
D - KoB's Trent McDuffie https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4843805
ST - Floyd Lawson https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4848345
K/P - Kick in Bleachers https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4842489

MADISON:
K/P - Boom Black https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4847234

MONROE:
O - Jolly Roger https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4841859

TYLER:
ST - Radar the Cat https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4847176
K/P - Younghoe Koo https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4844268

Van Buren:
D - Chase Altman https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4851029
ST - Fast Sands https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4850011
K/P - Dead On https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4845284

Washington:
O - Amlaith https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4847986
D - SheThemFS1 https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4843825


Top 25?!?!?!?!
Total:
10 MVP's!!!
2 - O
2 - D
4 - ST
2 - K/P

17 Runner-ups:
4 - O
4 - D
4 - ST
5 K/P


EDIT: Schemes, opportunities, and random games always have an effect on this most inexact of sciences...just a fun comment/observation.
Edited by King of Bling on Aug 4, 2023 01:42:05
Edited by King of Bling on Jul 29, 2023 01:01:59
Edited by King of Bling on Jul 28, 2023 01:17:17
 
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Malik

He’s defense btw
 
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Originally posted by King of Bling

MVP Runner-up

Washington:
O - Amlaith https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4847986



was close and had better numbers than MVP. In the end I'm sure will be the better dot after 4 seasons.
 
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Originally posted by King of Bling
To me, un-boosted dots (L15/16) winning or getting runner-up for MVP in their leagues is waaay more impressive than a L20-25 dot taking it.

MVP:


JEFFERSON:
O - Sir Ken Stabler https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4850627



EDIT: Schemes, opportunities, and random games always have an effect on this most inexact of sciences...just a fun comment/observation.


Definitely true and yes schemes and touches definitely matter but let's be real. In our League, we could have had 6 offensive players on our Warriors team win MVP. We just spread the ball around. I think we gifted the MVP to Stabler

Sir Ken Stabler
54.1% completion pct
5.8 YPA
1 TD pass every 18.2 passes

Johnny Marino-Elway
69.5% completion pct
10.9 YPA
1 TD pass every 4.9 passes

plus we had 4 guys lead the league in rushing yards and touchdowns and other guy was 7th.




 
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Originally posted by bubbajbucko
Definitely true and yes schemes and touches definitely matter but let's be real. In our League, we could have had 6 offensive players on our Warriors team win MVP. We just spread the ball around. I think we gifted the MVP to Stabler

Sir Ken Stabler
54.1% completion pct
5.8 YPA
1 TD pass every 18.2 passes

Johnny Marino-Elway
69.5% completion pct
10.9 YPA
1 TD pass every 4.9 passes

plus we had 4 guys lead the league in rushing yards and touchdowns and other guy was 7th.






Reading Comprehension Much?? KOB prefaced this post by saying boosted dots https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=10025 would have AN ADVANTAGE. https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/compare_teams.pl?team1=10025&team2=10026

Edited by Backes-to-Backes on Jul 28, 2023 11:09:29
 
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MVP system is broken
 
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Originally posted by Backes-to-Backes
Reading Comprehension Much?? KOB prefaced this post by saying boosted dots https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/roster.pl?team_id=10025 would have AN ADVANTAGE. https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/compare_teams.pl?team1=10025&team2=10026



Did you have a good cry?

I understood what he said. Just pointing out the obvious your guy won only cause we let him.

Hope you feel better after that trash



 
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On the topic of MVP races - does the MVP ranking not use the same logic as the HoF rankings?
The QB for our team is ranked much higher on the current season HoF than the HB that is ranked #1 in MVP...
 
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Originally posted by bubbajbucko
Did you have a good cry?

I understood what he said. Just pointing out the obvious your guy won only cause we let him.

Hope you feel better after that trash





U did nothing since you have 3 CB.................. Smitty is a great coach and person! U R just a troll!! End od Discussion!
 
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Agreed for Smitty. I think bubba must be his son so probably is not that bad.

EDIT: I mean you're doing silly things when young, I know from my nephew.
Edited by Kenshinzen on Jul 29, 2023 00:26:47
 
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Originally posted by bubbajbucko
Definitely true and yes schemes and touches definitely matter but let's be real. In our League, we could have had 6 offensive players on our Warriors team win MVP. We just spread the ball around. I think we gifted the MVP to Stabler

Sir Ken Stabler
54.1% completion pct
5.8 YPA
1 TD pass every 18.2 passes

Johnny Marino-Elway
69.5% completion pct
10.9 YPA
1 TD pass every 4.9 passes

plus we had 4 guys lead the league in rushing yards and touchdowns and other guy was 7th.





you need to look at blowout adjusted stats

you had all those stats because you blew out teams you outleveled
 
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also, Bort's MVP formulas are biased towards volume

so being efficient with a low number of pass attempts won't do as well in the MVP race as the one with high volume

which also makes sense - an NFL QB isn't winning MVP with 10 pass attempts a game
 
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Originally posted by Kenshinzen
Agreed for Smitty. I think bubba must be his son so probably is not that bad.

EDIT: I mean you're doing silly things when young, I know from my nephew.


Yeah BubbaJ is my son and he's a great kid. To be fair, that post by Backes comes across as pretty condescending.

None of it matters anyways. Best of luck to everyone in the playoffs.
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
also, Bort's MVP formulas are biased towards volume

so being efficient with a low number of pass attempts won't do as well in the MVP race as the one with high volume

which also makes sense - an NFL QB isn't winning MVP with 10 pass attempts a game



Yes as it should be. I think Jared's take on it was if we gave any of those players double the workload they likely would have won the MVP anyways, adjusted stats or not. Backes QB is outstanding and he deserved it for sure.


 
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Originally posted by Backes-to-Backes
U did nothing since you have 3 CB.................. Smitty is a great coach and person! U R just a troll!! End od Discussion!


My dad really is a great coach (coached me in football and baseball for many years).

I apologize if my post came across that way. I didn't like how yours talked down to me but maybe I overreacted. Anyways you are right that I am the defensive specialist and have nothing to do with the offensive side.

But DAMN! My defense is looking good.

 
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