I knew that boosting early was not a good idea long term but had already decided to reboot for next season with the new information I have picked up. I noticed that the 2 top teams in the other division had boosted. Brew Crew only 1 boost, but New Orleans was 3 levels ahead of me and I had them in the semi game of the league tournament. I was only trying to even the playing field and not thinking about next season. I have actually learned more over the past couple of days than the previous weeks combined and I do not like the arch types of my players or the roster position numbers and since I am a solo agent I decided to fix it. Sorry you disapprove of me boosting early and I certainly understand your perspective but it was the right choice for me based on my decision to use this season as a learning curve.
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Originally posted by steinbajl
I knew that boosting early was not a good idea long term but had already decided to reboot for next season with the new information I have picked up. I noticed that the 2 top teams in the other division had boosted. Brew Crew only 1 boost, but New Orleans was 3 levels ahead of me and I had them in the semi game of the league tournament. I was only trying to even the playing field and not thinking about next season. I have actually learned more over the past couple of days than the previous weeks combined and I do not like the arch types of my players or the roster position numbers and since I am a solo agent I decided to fix it. Sorry you disapprove of me boosting early and I certainly understand your perspective but it was the right choice for me based on my decision to use this season as a learning curve.
Agreed. There's a HUGE difference between a team that reboots EVERY season to perpetually camp in Rookie, versus a guy coming back from a long hiatus who starts a temporary rookie team to re-learn the ropes, reboots ONCE, and then starts a new Rookie team for real to take them up to Pro. I have BIG problems with the first one. I have NO problems with the second one -- in fact, I encourage it. That's a great way to get back into the game!
But considering Jeff Williams plays for and is on the record defending a guy who got banned for repeatedly demanding that other GLB customers kill themselves because they dared to call him out for giving bad advice in the forums... I guess I shouldn't be surprised that Jeff is wrong on this topic too. But at least Jeff himself hasn't told anyone to kill themselves, so he's got that going for him, I suppose.
I knew that boosting early was not a good idea long term but had already decided to reboot for next season with the new information I have picked up. I noticed that the 2 top teams in the other division had boosted. Brew Crew only 1 boost, but New Orleans was 3 levels ahead of me and I had them in the semi game of the league tournament. I was only trying to even the playing field and not thinking about next season. I have actually learned more over the past couple of days than the previous weeks combined and I do not like the arch types of my players or the roster position numbers and since I am a solo agent I decided to fix it. Sorry you disapprove of me boosting early and I certainly understand your perspective but it was the right choice for me based on my decision to use this season as a learning curve.
Agreed. There's a HUGE difference between a team that reboots EVERY season to perpetually camp in Rookie, versus a guy coming back from a long hiatus who starts a temporary rookie team to re-learn the ropes, reboots ONCE, and then starts a new Rookie team for real to take them up to Pro. I have BIG problems with the first one. I have NO problems with the second one -- in fact, I encourage it. That's a great way to get back into the game!
But considering Jeff Williams plays for and is on the record defending a guy who got banned for repeatedly demanding that other GLB customers kill themselves because they dared to call him out for giving bad advice in the forums... I guess I shouldn't be surprised that Jeff is wrong on this topic too. But at least Jeff himself hasn't told anyone to kill themselves, so he's got that going for him, I suppose.
Originally posted by Novus
Agreed. There's a HUGE difference between a team that reboots EVERY season to perpetually camp in Rookie, versus a guy coming back from a long hiatus who starts a temporary rookie team to re-learn the ropes, reboots ONCE, and then starts a new Rookie team for real to take them up to Pro. I have BIG problems with the first one. I have NO problems with the second one -- in fact, I encourage it. That's a great way to get back into the game!
Well, before you get all angsty on those types of teams consider this if you would... because for quite a while I felt just as you did about them.
#1, We already have people that build dots that only play in D-leagues... and people that only play Casual... and people that only play GLB2... and people that only play Peewee... so I look at it (now) as just another way some people enjoy playing GLB.
#2, I also get the financial aspect of doing it that way so I can't argue with someone on how they wish to spend their $ or enjoy the game.
#3, As long as they're still buying flex they're indirectly supporting me and the way I love to play the game. I'm ok with that.
#4, Several of them are REAL good at what they do. Their long list of Rookie trophies give proof to that. And every time we reset our teams back to rookie I gotta face them again... and every time I get a little bit better at competing against them. I learn things from each encounter and add it to what I already know, working for that day when I beat them... and when I take home that Rookie Championship. Will it mean as much to me as a WL trophy? Hell no. But I'll know when I get that WL trophy that they'll have helped me get good enough along the way. And I'm ok with that too.
Agreed. There's a HUGE difference between a team that reboots EVERY season to perpetually camp in Rookie, versus a guy coming back from a long hiatus who starts a temporary rookie team to re-learn the ropes, reboots ONCE, and then starts a new Rookie team for real to take them up to Pro. I have BIG problems with the first one. I have NO problems with the second one -- in fact, I encourage it. That's a great way to get back into the game!
Well, before you get all angsty on those types of teams consider this if you would... because for quite a while I felt just as you did about them.
#1, We already have people that build dots that only play in D-leagues... and people that only play Casual... and people that only play GLB2... and people that only play Peewee... so I look at it (now) as just another way some people enjoy playing GLB.
#2, I also get the financial aspect of doing it that way so I can't argue with someone on how they wish to spend their $ or enjoy the game.
#3, As long as they're still buying flex they're indirectly supporting me and the way I love to play the game. I'm ok with that.
#4, Several of them are REAL good at what they do. Their long list of Rookie trophies give proof to that. And every time we reset our teams back to rookie I gotta face them again... and every time I get a little bit better at competing against them. I learn things from each encounter and add it to what I already know, working for that day when I beat them... and when I take home that Rookie Championship. Will it mean as much to me as a WL trophy? Hell no. But I'll know when I get that WL trophy that they'll have helped me get good enough along the way. And I'm ok with that too.
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Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Well, before you get all angsty on those types of teams consider this if you would... because for quite a while I felt just as you did about them.
#1, We already have people that build dots that only play in D-leagues... and people that only play Casual... and people that only play GLB2... and people that only play Peewee... so I look at it (now) as just another way some people enjoy playing GLB.
#2, I also get the financial aspect of doing it that way so I can't argue with someone on how they wish to spend their $ or enjoy the game.
#3, As long as they're still buying flex they're indirectly supporting me and the way I love to play the game. I'm ok with that.
#4, Several of them are REAL good at what they do. Their long list of Rookie trophies give proof to that. And every time we reset our teams back to rookie I gotta face them again... and every time I get a little bit better at competing against them. I learn things from each encounter and add it to what I already know, working for that day when I beat them... and when I take home that Rookie Championship. Will it mean as much to me as a WL trophy? Hell no. But I'll know when I get that WL trophy that they'll have helped me get good enough along the way. And I'm ok with that too.
I still say the Rookie-league lurkers should go play in Pee Wee where they belong. Pee Wee is a league that is SPECIFICALLY for teams to build dots for one season and then reset.
But the Rookie-league lurkers don't want to do that -- because Pee Wee is full of team owners who are better at building one-season dots than they are. Whereas Rookie is full of dots who are sacrificing short-term performance to lock in long-term results -- easy pickings for dots who are specifically built to only exist for one season. So rather than go where they belong in Pee Wee and face a challenge, the Rookie-league lurkers go to Rookie instead to get easy trophies, harm the enjoyment of everyone else in Rookie, and then try to brag about their gold trophies as if they mean something.
Kinda like Jeff Williams and Darncat do when Felicus moves to Regional Pro #3 to get cheap golds and then brags about their trophies in the forums. Which is why it is so LAUGHABLE that Jeff Williams wants to get indignant about Rookie-league lurkers. Physician, heal thyself.
Well, before you get all angsty on those types of teams consider this if you would... because for quite a while I felt just as you did about them.
#1, We already have people that build dots that only play in D-leagues... and people that only play Casual... and people that only play GLB2... and people that only play Peewee... so I look at it (now) as just another way some people enjoy playing GLB.
#2, I also get the financial aspect of doing it that way so I can't argue with someone on how they wish to spend their $ or enjoy the game.
#3, As long as they're still buying flex they're indirectly supporting me and the way I love to play the game. I'm ok with that.
#4, Several of them are REAL good at what they do. Their long list of Rookie trophies give proof to that. And every time we reset our teams back to rookie I gotta face them again... and every time I get a little bit better at competing against them. I learn things from each encounter and add it to what I already know, working for that day when I beat them... and when I take home that Rookie Championship. Will it mean as much to me as a WL trophy? Hell no. But I'll know when I get that WL trophy that they'll have helped me get good enough along the way. And I'm ok with that too.
I still say the Rookie-league lurkers should go play in Pee Wee where they belong. Pee Wee is a league that is SPECIFICALLY for teams to build dots for one season and then reset.
But the Rookie-league lurkers don't want to do that -- because Pee Wee is full of team owners who are better at building one-season dots than they are. Whereas Rookie is full of dots who are sacrificing short-term performance to lock in long-term results -- easy pickings for dots who are specifically built to only exist for one season. So rather than go where they belong in Pee Wee and face a challenge, the Rookie-league lurkers go to Rookie instead to get easy trophies, harm the enjoyment of everyone else in Rookie, and then try to brag about their gold trophies as if they mean something.
Kinda like Jeff Williams and Darncat do when Felicus moves to Regional Pro #3 to get cheap golds and then brags about their trophies in the forums. Which is why it is so LAUGHABLE that Jeff Williams wants to get indignant about Rookie-league lurkers. Physician, heal thyself.
Originally posted by Novus
But the Rookie-league lurkers don't want to do that -- because Pee Wee is full of team owners who are better at building one-season dots than they are. Whereas Rookie is full of dots who are sacrificing short-term performance to lock in long-term results -- easy pickings for dots who are specifically built to only exist for one season. So rather than go where they belong in Pee Wee and face a challenge, the Rookie-league lurkers go to Rookie instead to get easy trophies, harm the enjoyment of everyone else in Rookie, and then try to brag about their gold trophies as if they mean something.
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But the Rookie-league lurkers don't want to do that -- because Pee Wee is full of team owners who are better at building one-season dots than they are. Whereas Rookie is full of dots who are sacrificing short-term performance to lock in long-term results -- easy pickings for dots who are specifically built to only exist for one season. So rather than go where they belong in Pee Wee and face a challenge, the Rookie-league lurkers go to Rookie instead to get easy trophies, harm the enjoyment of everyone else in Rookie, and then try to brag about their gold trophies as if they mean something.
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Originally posted by steinbajl
I knew that boosting early was not a good idea long term but had already decided to reboot for next season with the new information I have picked up. I noticed that the 2 top teams in the other division had boosted. Brew Crew only 1 boost, but New Orleans was 3 levels ahead of me and I had them in the semi game of the league tournament. I was only trying to even the playing field and not thinking about next season. I have actually learned more over the past couple of days than the previous weeks combined and I do not like the arch types of my players or the roster position numbers and since I am a solo agent I decided to fix it. Sorry you disapprove of me boosting early and I certainly understand your perspective but it was the right choice for me based on my decision to use this season as a learning curve.
monkey see, monkey do. you 100% proved my point with your second sentence. case closed. everyone else is wrong. this is 100% hurting GLB
I knew that boosting early was not a good idea long term but had already decided to reboot for next season with the new information I have picked up. I noticed that the 2 top teams in the other division had boosted. Brew Crew only 1 boost, but New Orleans was 3 levels ahead of me and I had them in the semi game of the league tournament. I was only trying to even the playing field and not thinking about next season. I have actually learned more over the past couple of days than the previous weeks combined and I do not like the arch types of my players or the roster position numbers and since I am a solo agent I decided to fix it. Sorry you disapprove of me boosting early and I certainly understand your perspective but it was the right choice for me based on my decision to use this season as a learning curve.
monkey see, monkey do. you 100% proved my point with your second sentence. case closed. everyone else is wrong. this is 100% hurting GLB
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this guy is some kind of delusional sociopath. what a nutcase. one minute he is saying one thing, the next minute he contradicts himself becuz he don't like wh sayin it. then next minute he is making up crazy lies again. what a nutcase. we played in NA Pro every single season we were eligible except for one single season we volunteered to switch with another team in Reg Pro #1 because they had got the shaft by going directly to NA pro the prior season at 240 day old and then sent back down at 280 day because of missing the play-offs. Then we went right back to NA Pro where we was every single season, while u was ducking and hiding from us. Yeah, and what did we see when our players were 560 day and we did one last season back in Reg Pro (after almost winning NA Pro 2 seasons into decline) was all your sucka teams sitting in Reg Pro #3 trying to get easy trophies. So we beat you there too. All you ever did was whine but you never had the guys to challenge us. you know why.
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this guy is some kind of delusional sociopath. what a nutcase. one minute he is saying one thing, the next minute he contradicts himself becuz he don't like wh sayin it. then next minute he is making up crazy lies again. what a nutcase. we played in NA Pro every single season we were eligible except for one single season we volunteered to switch with another team in Reg Pro #1 because they had got the shaft by going directly to NA pro the prior season at 240 day old and then sent back down at 280 day because of missing the play-offs. Then we went right back to NA Pro where we was every single season, while u was ducking and hiding from us. Yeah, and what did we see when our players were 560 day and we did one last season back in Reg Pro (after almost winning NA Pro 2 seasons into decline) was all your sucka teams sitting in Reg Pro #3 trying to get easy trophies. So we beat you there too. All you ever did was whine but you never had the guys to challenge us. you know why.
Originally posted by Jeff Williams
monkey see, monkey do. you 100% proved my point with your second sentence. case closed. everyone else is wrong. this is 100% hurting GLB
The guy responds respectfully...and here you are trolling a guy who just came back to the game. You are 100% hurting GLB...Get back on your meds darncat, before you get your 3rd or 4th account banned from posting. Fucking incel.
monkey see, monkey do. you 100% proved my point with your second sentence. case closed. everyone else is wrong. this is 100% hurting GLB
The guy responds respectfully...and here you are trolling a guy who just came back to the game. You are 100% hurting GLB...Get back on your meds darncat, before you get your 3rd or 4th account banned from posting. Fucking incel.
Originally posted by steinbajl
I knew that boosting early was not a good idea long term but had already decided to reboot for next season with the new information I have picked up. I noticed that the 2 top teams in the other division had boosted. Brew Crew only 1 boost, but New Orleans was 3 levels ahead of me and I had them in the semi game of the league tournament. I was only trying to even the playing field and not thinking about next season. I have actually learned more over the past couple of days than the previous weeks combined and I do not like the arch types of my players or the roster position numbers and since I am a solo agent I decided to fix it. Sorry you disapprove of me boosting early and I certainly understand your perspective but it was the right choice for me based on my decision to use this season as a learning curve.
Easy there brother. It's really not nearly as much about someone disapproving as it is trying to give you as much information possible so you can make quality decisions based on how you wish to play the game. Most of us are not against anyone walking their own path... but the more you know the easier it is to walk it. When I started playing this game (back in the stone age) I did just about EVERYTHING wrong (according to how most dots are built) but there wasn't a helluva lot of people out there either willing to help a noob or not wanting to. It took a couple of train wrecks but I found a friend who owned a team and took me in to coach me along. I asked enough questions to fill several forums... but I learned along the way. I still build dots "my way" more than follow any guides to the exact letter... but KNOWING what works and what doesn't and why sure helps me keep from building dots only a CPU team could love.
I knew that boosting early was not a good idea long term but had already decided to reboot for next season with the new information I have picked up. I noticed that the 2 top teams in the other division had boosted. Brew Crew only 1 boost, but New Orleans was 3 levels ahead of me and I had them in the semi game of the league tournament. I was only trying to even the playing field and not thinking about next season. I have actually learned more over the past couple of days than the previous weeks combined and I do not like the arch types of my players or the roster position numbers and since I am a solo agent I decided to fix it. Sorry you disapprove of me boosting early and I certainly understand your perspective but it was the right choice for me based on my decision to use this season as a learning curve.
Easy there brother. It's really not nearly as much about someone disapproving as it is trying to give you as much information possible so you can make quality decisions based on how you wish to play the game. Most of us are not against anyone walking their own path... but the more you know the easier it is to walk it. When I started playing this game (back in the stone age) I did just about EVERYTHING wrong (according to how most dots are built) but there wasn't a helluva lot of people out there either willing to help a noob or not wanting to. It took a couple of train wrecks but I found a friend who owned a team and took me in to coach me along. I asked enough questions to fill several forums... but I learned along the way. I still build dots "my way" more than follow any guides to the exact letter... but KNOWING what works and what doesn't and why sure helps me keep from building dots only a CPU team could love.
I don't know if some of these teams still do it but some will play for say 3-4 seasons, yes boosting their dots for the early season trophy's and then reboot doing it again. Can't do that in pee wee. I don't know if they still do but if my memory serves me correctly which I am a old fart prlly older than Wizzaglo one of these teams mentioned here recently in one of these post do that. Not sure it the team still does or not but back in the day they were called 3 and out teams., they play for a few seasons until their build become less effective against the teams that build for the long run then they start over.
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Originally posted by Jeff Williams
this guy is some kind of delusional sociopath. what a nutcase. one minute he is saying one thing, the next minute he contradicts himself becuz he don't like wh sayin it. then next minute he is making up crazy lies again. what a nutcase. we played in NA Pro every single season we were eligible except for one single season we volunteered to switch with another team in Reg Pro #1 because they had got the shaft by going directly to NA pro the prior season at 240 day old and then sent back down at 280 day because of missing the play-offs. Then we went right back to NA Pro where we was every single season, while u was ducking and hiding from us. Yeah, and what did we see when our players were 560 day and we did one last season back in Reg Pro (after almost winning NA Pro 2 seasons into decline) was all your sucka teams sitting in Reg Pro #3 trying to get easy trophies. So we beat you there too. All you ever did was whine but you never had the guys to challenge us. you know why.
Factually incorrect.
Felicus moved into Regional Pro #3 twice, moving down from higher leagues after seasons in which Felicus had just barely scraped into the playoffs. You realize we can all look up a team's history, right? It's all right there in Felicus's team history. I have another thread elsewhere that has the full details and season numbers if you'd like.
When my team, the Palookas, graduated from Regional Pro #1, we requested North America Pro. So did a number of other teams -- too many to fit into NA Pro. So the "sorting hat" sent us to Pacific Pro. When a spot opened up in North America Pro two seasons later, we put in a request to move, and that time it was granted. We ducked nobody... unlike Darncat, who intentionally demoted to Regional Pro #3 twice when he couldn't hack it at higher levels.
I've never had a team in Regional Pro #3. You're thinking of someone else.
Felicus never came close to winning North America Pro. Again, you're thinking of someone else.
And if you honestly can't see the difference between Team A, who resets to Rookie season after season after season to slurp up cheap trophies, versus Team B, who has an owner returning to the game from a long hiatus and uses a season in Rookie to re-learn the game before resetting once and settling in for a full run up to Plateau, well... I honestly don't know what to say. You seriously think that a guy who comes back to the game after 40 seasons on inactivity should build and recruit an entire team of Rookie dots while he's still re-learning how to play and then either take them all the way up to Plateau or face your everlasting derision and scorn. What Steinbajl is doing and what Rookie-league lurker teams are doing are not the same thing -- not even close.
this guy is some kind of delusional sociopath. what a nutcase. one minute he is saying one thing, the next minute he contradicts himself becuz he don't like wh sayin it. then next minute he is making up crazy lies again. what a nutcase. we played in NA Pro every single season we were eligible except for one single season we volunteered to switch with another team in Reg Pro #1 because they had got the shaft by going directly to NA pro the prior season at 240 day old and then sent back down at 280 day because of missing the play-offs. Then we went right back to NA Pro where we was every single season, while u was ducking and hiding from us. Yeah, and what did we see when our players were 560 day and we did one last season back in Reg Pro (after almost winning NA Pro 2 seasons into decline) was all your sucka teams sitting in Reg Pro #3 trying to get easy trophies. So we beat you there too. All you ever did was whine but you never had the guys to challenge us. you know why.
Factually incorrect.
Felicus moved into Regional Pro #3 twice, moving down from higher leagues after seasons in which Felicus had just barely scraped into the playoffs. You realize we can all look up a team's history, right? It's all right there in Felicus's team history. I have another thread elsewhere that has the full details and season numbers if you'd like.
When my team, the Palookas, graduated from Regional Pro #1, we requested North America Pro. So did a number of other teams -- too many to fit into NA Pro. So the "sorting hat" sent us to Pacific Pro. When a spot opened up in North America Pro two seasons later, we put in a request to move, and that time it was granted. We ducked nobody... unlike Darncat, who intentionally demoted to Regional Pro #3 twice when he couldn't hack it at higher levels.
I've never had a team in Regional Pro #3. You're thinking of someone else.
Felicus never came close to winning North America Pro. Again, you're thinking of someone else.
And if you honestly can't see the difference between Team A, who resets to Rookie season after season after season to slurp up cheap trophies, versus Team B, who has an owner returning to the game from a long hiatus and uses a season in Rookie to re-learn the game before resetting once and settling in for a full run up to Plateau, well... I honestly don't know what to say. You seriously think that a guy who comes back to the game after 40 seasons on inactivity should build and recruit an entire team of Rookie dots while he's still re-learning how to play and then either take them all the way up to Plateau or face your everlasting derision and scorn. What Steinbajl is doing and what Rookie-league lurker teams are doing are not the same thing -- not even close.
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Originally posted by steinbajl
I knew that boosting early was not a good idea long term but had already decided to reboot for next season with the new information I have picked up. I noticed that the 2 top teams in the other division had boosted. Brew Crew only 1 boost, but New Orleans was 3 levels ahead of me and I had them in the semi game of the league tournament. I was only trying to even the playing field and not thinking about next season. I have actually learned more over the past couple of days than the previous weeks combined and I do not like the arch types of my players or the roster position numbers and since I am a solo agent I decided to fix it. Sorry you disapprove of me boosting early and I certainly understand your perspective but it was the right choice for me based on my decision to use this season as a learning curve.
The fact that you are here and now is far more important than any mistakes or trials you may or may not have done. Welcome back to what is still a great game with some truly helpful and knowledgable agents Hopefully the bug to play GLB will burn strong as the bug of covid hopefully dies out/down/whatever. I think Theo said earlier about getting on a team with like minded individuals....mainly FOR THE RIDE !!....Its the reason I oc/dc so many teams and a huge part of why I still enjoy this game. As my dot building has become better (ish !) Ive had access to more successful teams and great co-ordinators and owners.
So my long winded point is welcome back and do what you gotta do to enjoy yourself on here
I knew that boosting early was not a good idea long term but had already decided to reboot for next season with the new information I have picked up. I noticed that the 2 top teams in the other division had boosted. Brew Crew only 1 boost, but New Orleans was 3 levels ahead of me and I had them in the semi game of the league tournament. I was only trying to even the playing field and not thinking about next season. I have actually learned more over the past couple of days than the previous weeks combined and I do not like the arch types of my players or the roster position numbers and since I am a solo agent I decided to fix it. Sorry you disapprove of me boosting early and I certainly understand your perspective but it was the right choice for me based on my decision to use this season as a learning curve.
The fact that you are here and now is far more important than any mistakes or trials you may or may not have done. Welcome back to what is still a great game with some truly helpful and knowledgable agents
Hopefully the bug to play GLB will burn strong as the bug of covid hopefully dies out/down/whatever. I think Theo said earlier about getting on a team with like minded individuals....mainly FOR THE RIDE !!....Its the reason I oc/dc so many teams and a huge part of why I still enjoy this game. As my dot building has become better (ish !) Ive had access to more successful teams and great co-ordinators and owners. So my long winded point is welcome back and do what you gotta do to enjoy yourself on here
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Someone please remind me, am I supposed to put "Jeff Williams" in quotes or "Darncat" in quotes? Does he even remember? Or is it if you suffer from multipersonality disorder none or all of them get put in quotes? 
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Originally posted by Novus
Factually incorrect.
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Yes, once again you are wrong. We made it to Pro season 73 and in season 75 we went down to help out another team who got screwed. Then we were in pro until season 78 when we would have won and went to WL except our dots were into decline and we hit the cliff halfway through the season. you can see exactly where the decline got too much to overcome. So then we had 2 decisions retire or play a send off season, so we went back to reg pro 3 specifically to beat the teams like Ohio Hooligans who have been hiding in reg pro from us and all the other real teams the whole time. they are a disgrace to ohio and we proved who is best, which is why we came back for one more season. now we back on the way to pro and now we know what to do when we get back there it wont take us until decline to figure it out. this was literally the first time just about everyone on our team ever stayed with the game to plateau. So literally all you have done is complain about losing to a team that has just began so what is anything you know really worth? That in a nutshell is why you can't leave this alone
Factually incorrect.
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Yes, once again you are wrong. We made it to Pro season 73 and in season 75 we went down to help out another team who got screwed. Then we were in pro until season 78 when we would have won and went to WL except our dots were into decline and we hit the cliff halfway through the season. you can see exactly where the decline got too much to overcome. So then we had 2 decisions retire or play a send off season, so we went back to reg pro 3 specifically to beat the teams like Ohio Hooligans who have been hiding in reg pro from us and all the other real teams the whole time. they are a disgrace to ohio and we proved who is best, which is why we came back for one more season. now we back on the way to pro and now we know what to do when we get back there it wont take us until decline to figure it out. this was literally the first time just about everyone on our team ever stayed with the game to plateau. So literally all you have done is complain about losing to a team that has just began so what is anything you know really worth? That in a nutshell is why you can't leave this alone
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