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lardaddy
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so is the presnap read /only/ possible on plays w/ one or more short routes? and does said short route(s) have to be first in the progressions for it to activate? bc I haven't seen it fire on like TE Drive, for example.

like here, if the TE or WR1 had been targeted first, is the hot read just not possible?

http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=6989&pbp_id=247851
 
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Originally posted by evileyez
not sure if this answers your question but "all blitz with short passing package" package had the short route as a dbl read before moving through other progressions.


Ya thats all blitz though. I was kinda looking for if you scouted me and congested the area with some underneath zones, how long would he hold those 2 progressions before moving on if there wasn't a completely uncovered guy in progressions of course?
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Seems like the air resistance thing doesn't lead passes very well.


that was my thought, under throw right to the trailing CB.

Does air resistance really have that much of an impact on NFL QB's?
 
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Originally posted by lardaddy
so is the presnap read /only/ possible on plays w/ one or more short routes? and does said short route(s) have to be first in the progressions for it to activate? bc I haven't seen it fire on like TE Drive, for example.

like here, if the TE or WR1 had been targeted first, is the hot read just not possible?

http://test.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=6989&pbp_id=247851


The hot route is the first progression. So for casual the hot route would be the colored route in the diagram. For regular it is your first progression.

But ya that is what I was trying to ask earlier. Are the hot routes limited to short plays or will they quick hit a streak prior to 7 yards?
 
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Originally posted by snakes22
that was my thought, under throw right to the trailing CB.

Does air resistance really have that much of an impact on NFL QB's?


I think it is Bort's way of making strength more important. Having watched the Passing QB for USC throw under those circumstances, he couldn't make it to the WR deep sometimes. Has to either be lower strength causing that or his lower throwing. Though he has 130 throwing. Or hes just too fast and it is causing that bad a penalty to quality. Could be a number of things I guess. I just would think it would attribute to strength.
 
evileyez
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air resistance is off and has been for awhile. it won't be coming across
 
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Originally posted by evileyez
air resistance is off and has been for awhile. it won't be coming across


Not this season. But I assume it will at some point though right?
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by evileyez

air resistance is off and has been for awhile. it won't be coming across


Not this season. But I assume it will at some point though right?


Maybe, but its significant enough of a change that it will really require a full seasons testing.
 
lardaddy
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can somebody pls run a game w/ nothing but long pass packages to see if the hotread ever happens?
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Not this season. But I assume it will at some point though right?


yep the same season they implement coaches
 
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Originally posted by snakes22
yep the same season they implement coaches


coaches will rollout with the new achievements ldo.
 
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Shouldn't there be another option in the Blitz Reaction Drop Down?

RUN.


Maybe even another option that allows the QB to abandon the pocket faster and scramble outside away from the blitz.

So...
Option #1 added - Scramble and pass
Option #2 added - Scramble and run

In both of these cases the QB leaves the pocket away from the strongest section of the blitz (vision check) and then either stays behind the LOS reading their receivers or makes a run for it.
 
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Originally posted by Enkidu98
Shouldn't there be another option in the Blitz Reaction Drop Down?

RUN.


Maybe even another option that allows the QB to abandon the pocket faster and scramble outside away from the blitz.

So...
Option #1 added - Scramble and pass
Option #2 added - Scramble and run

In both of these cases the QB leaves the pocket away from the strongest section of the blitz (vision check) and then either stays behind the LOS reading their receivers or makes a run for it.


I like it.

 
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They could even be combined. Just call it 'Scramble' and the QB will make a minimum number of reads (checks the hot routes and dump off targets) and then run for it.
 
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