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Longhornfan1024
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Originally posted by jdbolick

Your dots always have shitty player values because you're just bad at building. It's ironic and highly amusing that being bad at building let you fall ass-backwards into some effectiveness because being dramatically slower than other CBs actually helps you in this abortion Bort calls his coverage code. It's not just that you chose to be slower, because your CBs also have lower jumping, vision, agility, etc than most others. They're bad builds, but being slow has actually helped them since being in a trailing position gives defenders the best chance to deflect a pass.


You base your view of a good build on some idea you came up with that you think should be a good build. I base my view of a good build on what actually works in the game. My dots have lower EL because I don't push speed to high levels when that does nothing to benefit my dot's play.

And more proof that my CBs are better than yours:

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
And just to show how retarded it is to judge a build purely on EL and not the build itself, here are the values for the combined points in all relevant attributes and SAs for each CB:

YMXI: 744.04
Roark: 715.44
Third: 681.44 (I had to check this twice it was so bad)

Your higher EL is almost entirely due to having higher base speed. Overall my builds have a higher pure-point total, which is more important for winning rolls. And this doesn't even take into account that YMXI is running 4 % AEQ whereas your CBs are only running 3. So despite only having 4 SA points to spend through CEQ versus 10-12 points EQ points that your CBs got to spend on SAs, my CB has many more points helping him to win rolls. Poor bolick can't build CBs anywhere near as good as mine.


Edited by Longhornfan1024 on May 7, 2012 10:49:16
 
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Originally posted by Robbnva
so are you saying his dots have a better chance at deflecting a pass than anyone else cause they are slower and have less agility?


He's saying my dots are better because I build them to play the game rather than coming up with some predetermined idea of "what should work" and building that.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

Your dots always have shitty player values because you're just bad at building. It's ironic and highly amusing that being bad at building let you fall ass-backwards into some effectiveness because being dramatically slower than other CBs actually helps you in this abortion Bort calls his coverage code. It's not just that you chose to be slower, because your CBs also have lower jumping, vision, agility, etc than most others. They're bad builds, but being slow has actually helped them since being in a trailing position gives defenders the best chance to deflect a pass.


And you should stop lying. My CBs have more agility, vision, strength, confidence, SV, SB, FS, and MT% than yours. Essentially, your CBs have more speed, slightly more stamina, 2 more CD (negligible since it's over 10), and one has more tackling. You are still basing your builds on the misguided belief that somehow 15 more speed creates a huge difference in performance even though we have 28 seasons of GLB that prove to the contrary.
 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
You base your view of a good build on some idea you came up with that you think should be a good build. I base my view of a good build on what actually works in the game. My dots have lower EL because I don't push speed to high levels when that does nothing to benefit my dot's play.

That's just a flat out lie. I have pointed out many times that your dots not only have lower speed, but also have lower agility, jumping, and vision than elite WL corners. Your CBs are low all over the place because you've always been shitty at building.

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And more proof that my CBs are better than yours:

You included catching in those numbers, which not only makes you look ridiculous but dishonest as well. I've said many times that I wish I hadn't taken speed so high on my corners since high speed is actually a disadvantage in this sim for coverage, but why are your numbers in agility, vision, and jumping also below average for WL corners?
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
That's just a flat out lie. I have pointed out many times that your dots not only have lower speed, but also have lower agility, jumping, and vision than elite WL corners. Your CBs are low all over the place because you've always been shitty at building.


So what you're saying is that your CBs must have god awful agility and vision for WL corners since yours have lower agility and vision than mine. And of course, let's ignore strength, confidence, SAs, and % AEQ. I mean, those things don't matter. More bolick building 101. Only pay attention to a few attributes and ignore everything else.

Originally posted by jdbolick

You included catching in those numbers, which not only makes you look ridiculous but dishonest as well. I've said many times that I wish I hadn't taken speed so high on my corners since high speed is actually a disadvantage in this sim for coverage, but why are your numbers in agility, vision, and jumping also below average for WL corners?


Having higher catching helped my CB lead WL in INTs last season. And he still allowed a lower percentage of completions, made plays on a higher percentage of his targets, and missed fewer tackles than your CBs. Obviously the higher catching didn't hurt him too much.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

Your dots always have shitty player values because you're just bad at building. It's ironic and highly amusing that being bad at building let you fall ass-backwards into some effectiveness because being dramatically slower than other CBs actually helps you in this abortion Bort calls his coverage code. It's not just that you chose to be slower, because your CBs also have lower jumping, vision, agility, etc than most others. They're bad builds, but being slow has actually helped them since being in a trailing position gives defenders the best chance to deflect a pass.


Let me see if I got this right... so his dots perform better and you think yours are 'better builds'?

 
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Originally posted by Luzod
Let me see if I got this right... so his dots perform better and you think yours are 'better builds'?



finally, more and more people see how stupid balick is.
 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
So what you're saying is that your CBs must have god awful agility and vision for WL corners since yours have lower agility and vision than mine. And of course, let's ignore strength, confidence, SAs, and % AEQ. I mean, those things don't matter. More bolick building 101. Only pay attention to a few attributes and ignore everything else.

My CBs have below average agility & vision by WL standards, yes, but they're virtually the same as yours in that respect. Agility can be made up through Change Direction, as it's the only SA which operates roughly equivalently to an attribute. I also choose to go a little light on vision because it doesn't really help enough against fakes and the check to see an incoming pass is easy enough to make. Meanwhile you keep conveniently minimizing the fact that my corners have a massive advantage in jumping over yours. When you opened them briefly, I was actually shocked at how low your jumping was. So your corners are a lot slower, a lot lower in jumping, have a tiny advantage in agility, have a tiny advantage in vision, and have a bunch in catching.

The point remains that if you were a good builder who just decided not to go high in speed then you could have gone high in something else, but you don't have high naturals in any attribute. Your builds suck because you've never understood how to do that efficiently, which is why good teams do not want your dots.


Originally posted by Luzod
Let me see if I got this right... so his dots perform better and you think yours are 'better builds'?

His dots have performed better sometimes and worse other times. In s26 he had shitty stats that he tried to make up numerous excuses for. But in general, LHF has lucked into the fact that lately being slower is actually a good thing for coverage. When I originally created my plateau corners, WRs like Jerricho Brooks were dominating WL defenses and I wanted CBs who would never get beaten deep. Unfortunately now no one ever gets beaten deep no matter how slow they are.


Originally posted by Robbnva
finally, more and more people see how stupid balick is.

It's amusing that you don't realize that you, Luzod, and LHF are all considered clowns, and that therefore you guys agreeing with each other is not a good thing. It's like the rejects who sat together in the cafeteria telling each other how great they all were.
 
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riddle me this batman, how come your name isn't on the list in the OP?

how come those people who are on the list in the OP aren't ever coming to your defense, saying you are an awesome dot builder?

Until some legitimate people in GLB actually vouch for you, the only clown in this thread is you.
 
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you are the moron who said LHF's CB sucks cause he gets more deflections

do you seriously not know what a CB's job is?
 
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Originally posted by Robbnva
riddle me this batman, how come your name isn't on the list in the OP?

how come those people who are on the list in the OP aren't ever coming to your defense, saying you are an awesome dot builder?

Until some legitimate people in GLB actually vouch for you, the only clown in this thread is you.

lol

Originally posted by Robbnva
you are the moron who said LHF's CB sucks cause he gets more deflections

do you seriously not know what a CB's job is?

No, I said his builds suck, which they do. He has always been a shitty builder because he doesn't really get that aspect of the game. You have such enormous difficulty comprehending what anyone posts. I beg you to please start taking your medication again, because you have just been a completely different person since you stopped.
 
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Mentioning CB's in a thread is like trolling err shooting fish in a barrel. Kind of reminds me of those birthday candles that re-light
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

No, I said his builds suck, which they do. He has always been a shitty builder because he doesn't really get that aspect of the game. You have such enormous difficulty comprehending what anyone posts. I beg you to please start taking your medication again, because you have just been a completely different person since you stopped.


you said his dot is slower, and because of that gets more deflections.

you also said you wish your dot was slower...

now I can't see the build to verify but lhf has said his CB has more agility, vision, and strength than yours, but you say he didn't go high enough on his agility... (assuming this is actually true)

I am failing to see where your dot is built better.
 
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