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Does this mean the build is not viable?

Scat Back is basically the current elusive back.

Or did you mean that there should be some kind of hypothetical "elusive HB" that doesn't work in the current sim, with vastly subjective attributes?

Originally posted by Deathblade
Scat Back is basically the current elusive back.

That is what I figured.

Originally posted by Deathblade
Or did you mean that there should be some kind of hypothetical "elusive HB" that doesn't work in the current sim, with vastly subjective attributes?

lol! By "hypothetical "elusive HB" that doesn't work in the current sim" do you mean ones with high vision?

I couldn't help myself.

Originally posted by DONKEIDIC
lol! By "hypothetical "elusive HB" that doesn't work in the current sim" do you mean ones with high vision?

I couldn't help myself.

I mean HB's without 120+ speed

Originally posted by Deathblade
I mean HB's without 120+ speed

Ouch!

Or am I missing some kind of sick burn?

Originally posted by Deathblade
Or am I missing some kind of sick burn?

Nah man, we are always getting into it over the whole vision thing.

The ouch was for my Elusive Back.

I agree. I have a lvl 53 blinky back w/ AI>SPD playing in AAA and he's averaging 4.3 YPC (on an underleveled team).

They should at least test the build.

Comparing the Elusive archetype with Scat Back archetype, in addition to the vision difference, Elusives have less Catching gains, and different bonus SAs. That seems different enough to warrant multiple Elusive builds and multiple Scat builds, instead of 2 Scat and 0 Elusive.

Both Scat Backs there have 50 catching, 15 Scat Back VA, 15 Quick Feet SA, 50-70 carrying, 40-60 vision, and little to no Slippery.

It would be nice to see:
-An Elusive with minimal catching and/or no Scat Back VA, instead with more Carrying and/or more Vision and/or more Slippery.
-An Elusive with more emphasis on utilizing Head Fake and Juke bonuses.
-A Scat Back with much more emphasis on First Step and Quick Cut than fake SAs (no Quick Feet VA)
-A Scat Back with more Catching and/or Carrying.

And while I agree with DB that speed rules over agility and especially vision right now, it would be nice to see:
-An Elusive with more vision (maybe with more confidence also, if these are supposed to help fakes)
-Either with more agility, unless agility is supposed to be less important for HBs than for defenders.

PS:

The builds are current WL builds

I see. So this is about testing the sim, not about testing the archetypes. My mistake, carry on.

Yeah, that's a different team.

Do you have any Elusive backs with 120 speed, 73 agility, 80 carrying, 60 vision - and heavy SA investment?

Uh, we aren't going to test your specific builds, just test realistic ones. Sorry folks.

Originally posted by TyrannyVaunt
Do you have any Elusive backs with 120 speed, 73 agility, 80 carrying, 60 vision - and heavy SA investment?

Don't worry, you will like the elusive builds