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Originally posted by Adderfist
4 LB's and 2 DT's with morale effecting abilities.

There should most deff be an impact on the opposing QB.


There isn't.
 
neoliminal
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What's the point of the 4-4? If you are looking for a better run-stop, I guess.

I can't find any mention of a 4-4 in wikipedia or other sources.

As others have mentioned, I guess if you have too many LBs and no SS, this might be useful.


Originally posted by some_website
With smart, athletic linebackers most passing attacks will fail, however a truly organized effective passing attack could terrorize your three defensive backs, but that happens rarely at the youth level.

Edited by neoliminal on Oct 4, 2009 09:10:04
 
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Originally posted by neoliminal
What's the point of the 4-4? If you are looking for a better run-stop, I guess.

I can't find any mention of a 4-4 in wikipedia or other sources.

As others have mentioned, I guess if you have too many LBs and no SS, this might be useful.



I like it, it's fun to mess around with.
Edited by blankspace on Oct 4, 2009 09:09:39
 
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I got no problem messing around with it, but how will it be useful? I guess if there's some exploitative running game...

I'd rather see a way to get this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/46_defense

I can't skew the linemen/LBs enough to make it work.
Edited by neoliminal on Oct 4, 2009 09:12:54
 
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Running game mostly and short passes, and it was added to just give the defensive side of the game a little more experimentation.
 
neoliminal
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I understand... just want something used in the pros rather than something used in peewee leagues.
 
blankspace
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If it makes any difference I'll be using it in WL.
 
neoliminal
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Originally posted by blankspace
If it makes any difference I'll be using it in WL.


Let me know how it works for you.

Like I said, should do great against any run... but you'll be burned by passes.
 
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Doubtful if you know how to run defenses and have your players built well to run the defense you want.
 
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for teams who like to spread it out using the run from the normal I, this will be epic

 
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Originally posted by neoliminal
I got no problem messing around with it, but how will it be useful? I guess if there's some exploitative running game...

I'd rather see a way to get this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/46_defense

I can't skew the linemen/LBs enough to make it work.


Now your talking about a formation that you can exploit with the pass. The 4-4 was used by the Arizona Cardinals quite extensively last year. A true 4-4 uses a SS or very small fast LB in what is called the "rover" position. And the Rover is moved around in all 4 Line backing positions. THe 46 is really not a formation of it's own, it's a just one of the many ways to align a 4-3. CHeck and see, all true 46s use 4-3 personnel. And even the 86 Bears had since enough to line up in the Nickel if the Off went 3 WR. THat's common sense. You just can't use one formation against every thing the Off throws at you. BUt the 4-4 would be a good base D for a GLB team. You really just need 2 SD CBs and a great FS.

BUt al that said I'm with you...let's stop making new formations and work on finding a way to shift all D players to any place you want and create any formation you want. THe problem is they have to find a way to open up the DPC to formation creation while finding and eliminating all possible exploitable options. Which they haven't managed to do with the DPC the way it is. WHen you create a play you should be able to put a player in any legal position. BUt when they get to that point we could have a OPC too.

Madden Football has a O & D play creator that does it by using the natural "gridiron" of football. THey set the field up as a grid with "plots" or small squares that represent a position on the field that the player can line up at vertically and horizontally. You just don't allow 2 players to line up at the same plotted section, and limit some of the things you could do like ridiculous overloads, etc. But they need to hire programmers to experiment to accomplish things like that.
 
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What we really need is a 5-3 defensive set we can use against 2 WR formations on 3rd and short or near the goal line.
 
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