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Since DT gets natural level gains in strength and agility of .67.

Start out training strength/carrying. Cap strength and change to agility/speed.
Take strength to 68 cap.
Take agility to 68 cap training speed/stamina.
Take speed to 77 cap training vision/confidence.
Take carrying to 68 cap.

All equipment in speed.

At 48 he would look something like
113 speed
87 strength
80 agility
69 carrying
69 vision

Your math doesn't look right. To work on strength, agility, speed, and carrying as you spelled out. It would take you to level 48 or so to reach the numbers you have shown. You haven't accounted for getting vision up to 69, which would be at least another 8 levels.

A good return man is going to need some SA's to boost speed and agility even more. SA's like First Step and Change Direction.

Speed is affected by weight, so this player would be slower than a lighter player with the same speed.

Not a bad build plan for a DT, but not for a return man. With your logic, just about any player could be a return man after 6 or 7 seasons.

Originally posted by FatLoad
Your math doesn't look right. To work on strength, agility, speed, and carrying as you spelled out. It would take you to level 48 or so to reach the numbers you have shown. You haven't accounted for getting vision up to 69, which would be at least another 8 levels.

A good return man is going to need some SA's to boost speed and agility even more. SA's like First Step and Change Direction.

Speed is affected by weight, so this player would be slower than a lighter player with the same speed.

Not a bad build plan for a DT, but not for a return man. With your logic, just about any player could be a return man after 6 or 7 seasons.

You are correct on the vision.

The idea would be one that breaks tackles more than one that outruns everyone. It might be even better to have him at 100 strength, 100 speed.

It would be very hard to turn an OL into a return man. Cs get +1 strength, but nothing else. OGs and OTs are even worse level gains. TEs and LBs auto level gains suck as well. QB/K/P are also out.

It works imo

My first built Center
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=1281242

2nd
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=1369118

Build is open here... probably gonna be the best
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1376493

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Originally posted by FatLoad

Your math doesn't look right. To work on strength, agility, speed, and carrying as you spelled out. It would take you to level 48 or so to reach the numbers you have shown. You haven't accounted for getting vision up to 69, which would be at least another 8 levels.

A good return man is going to need some SA's to boost speed and agility even more. SA's like First Step and Change Direction.

Speed is affected by weight, so this player would be slower than a lighter player with the same speed.

Not a bad build plan for a DT, but not for a return man. With your logic, just about any player could be a return man after 6 or 7 seasons.

You are correct on the vision.

The idea would be one that breaks tackles more than one that outruns everyone. It might be even better to have him at 100 strength, 100 speed.

It would be very hard to turn an OL into a return man. Cs get +1 strength, but nothing else. OGs and OTs are even worse level gains. TEs and LBs auto level gains suck as well. QB/K/P are also out.








FB?

Originally posted by Negronic
FB?



FB is good, especially since you can get some of the SAs. DE would be better if you could get spin, juke, or head fake AEQ. Not even sure if DE can roll a return man AEQ.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Originally posted by Negronic

FB?



FB is good, especially since you can get some of the SAs. DE would be better if you could get spin, juke, or head fake AEQ. Not even sure if DE can roll a return man AEQ.

No return man, and no break tackle as far as I can tell.

My OTs can get monster hit though.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Originally posted by FatLoad

Your math doesn't look right. To work on strength, agility, speed, and carrying as you spelled out. It would take you to level 48 or so to reach the numbers you have shown. You haven't accounted for getting vision up to 69, which would be at least another 8 levels.

A good return man is going to need some SA's to boost speed and agility even more. SA's like First Step and Change Direction.

Speed is affected by weight, so this player would be slower than a lighter player with the same speed.

Not a bad build plan for a DT, but not for a return man. With your logic, just about any player could be a return man after 6 or 7 seasons.

You are correct on the vision.

The idea would be one that breaks tackles more than one that outruns everyone. It might be even better to have him at 100 strength, 100 speed.

It would be very hard to turn an OL into a return man. Cs get +1 strength, but nothing else. OGs and OTs are even worse level gains. TEs and LBs auto level gains suck as well. QB/K/P are also out.








QBs can make a decent returner actually.

why not just do a DE

get speed lvl boosts & first step/change dir

I have seen DE's run returns very effective in the early stages (Pee-Wee ,13 - Cap)

I have my DT try and run return in season 9 w/ high speed and agaility but I think his 272 lbs. might have slowed him down a bit.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=1200651&playoffs=0

Interesting idea Rage as to the FB I have one of those who has started to do PR this season and isnt doing too shabby

http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=1222809&playoffs=0

Why not a HB since they have every good SA needed besides Return Specialist which you could get with 2 AE to 10. That's my next plan when I make a guy day 40. Plus all their majors are the attributes you need for a returner.

Originally posted by ANumber1Roy
Why not a HB since they have every good SA needed besides Return Specialist which you could get with 2 AE to 10. That's my next plan when I make a guy day 40. Plus all their majors are the attributes you need for a returner.

Because you don't need SAs to break tackles and elusive flag return isn't being discussed here.
DTs and DEs are cheaper, and offer more automatic level gains to useful stats afaic. Power thru is a waste of time when you can get such intense stat increasing VAs and break tackle AEQ to couple with an SA-less build.

Why would you cap strength before speed and agility? edit: because hes a DT ldo

And Psycho is right about DEs being a better choice than a DT since you get the extra speed.

Originally posted by Djinnt
Originally posted by ANumber1Roy

Why not a HB since they have every good SA needed besides Return Specialist which you could get with 2 AE to 10. That's my next plan when I make a guy day 40. Plus all their majors are the attributes you need for a returner.

Because you don't need SAs to break tackles and elusive flag return isn't being discussed here.
DTs and DEs are cheaper, and offer more automatic level gains to useful stats afaic. Power thru is a waste of time when you can get such intense stat increasing VAs and break tackle AEQ to couple with an SA-less build.

Pretty sure you cannot get break-tackle AEQ for your D-line. Prove me wrong?