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Mr. Me2
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Originally posted by PP
I know this sucks for a very high % of agents. I know it sure does for me.

Many ppl in this thread are talking about letting you build your dots the way you want to. Frankly, that's why I pushed this change so hard (If you want to hate someone over this, you may as well hate me). Not only is stacked % gear waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to overpowered, but it also is forcing most positions to go all % gear on their dots. If left unchanged, within 3-4 more ssns, no WL QB would be without 3 pieces of % pass quality. No WL PB would be without 3 % brk tkl and so on.

Those that believe we took away your ability to build the type of dot you wanted couldn't be further from the truth. We just gave you that ability. Before this, the vast majority of the best dot builders were going 3 pieces of % gear on their younger dots. Without this change, you would have too or stood no chance of ever being a WL dot (ever being better than a decent).

Also, at the same time this is happening, Catch will also be evaluating SAs, to be sure that each provides a true and beneficial purpose. The idea is in no way to force anyone to do anything (hell, you can still have 3 % AEQs, if you want). The goal is to make it so there is more than 1 way to build a top end dot, and that just wouldn't exist if this wasn't changed.


It sure made me unnecessarily waste training points shopping for more +% AEQ that I could have used for something else...
 
j10er
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This was a much needed change, especially considering the future, when 3 pieces of full AEQ would be the norm.

Good change and good foresight.
 
jdros13
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
To your first question: I asked catch about it around 20 pages ago, and yes, if you spent 1 ST early in a career in order to buy a +2% piece to improve early performance, you cans sell that piece for 25 STs. A couple of my players are set for life now on STs.

To the second question/statement--that is upsetting. I'm not sure if catch/Bort can do it, but they really should try and look at AEQ purchasing history and whether testers or teams that they are on started buying up any %AEQ they could find in the shop.


Um...I didn't tell either you or Saris about it, did I?

I wouldn't worry about it. It was made very clear that our purchasing history would be closely scrutinized.

Edited by jdros13 on Feb 14, 2010 10:55:36
 
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Originally posted by jdros13
Um...I didn't tell either you or Saris about it, did I?

I wouldn't worry about it. It was made very clear that our purchasing history would be closely scrutinized.



lol. I didn't even know that you're a tester.

How come I'm not a tester?
 
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Originally posted by jdros13
Um...I didn't tell either you or Saris about it, did I?

I wouldn't worry about it. It was made very clear that our purchasing history would be closely scrutinized.



yeah, I don't think I have even 1 % piece for any of my sub lvl 50 players. Personally, I hope some tester did pimp it. If they did, this will be a good way of weeding someone that obviously shouldn't have been there in the 1st place out.
 
mrmattregan
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Does anyone remember when this game was fun? These changes are stupid...
 
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Originally posted by silenthatred
It sure made me unnecessarily waste training points shopping for more +% AEQ that I could have used for something else...


Sure it did....And now will get to trade that % AEQ in on something else that may or may not have taken you as long to find, if you even choose to do so. 2 % pieces is still a very viable choice, IMO. The 3rd, you probably want to swap out.

I know it still kind of sucks, but it sucks for damn near every good dot builder out there and it is far from a build ruiner. Personally, I think forcing many positions to get 3 pieces of % AEQ (in order to be a great build) sucks a lot worse.
 
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this, unfortunately, completely screws over some of my players, since that was my strategy while building them. i spent quite a bit of tokens trying to select specific pieces of equip to stack. in the meantime, other agents used those tokens to boost and build SP. hopefully, this was taken into consideration when deciding what the consolation was going to be. the equip offered (for this exchange only) should be much better than what we have in order to balance us with the builds that did not go this route (% aeq hunting).
 
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Spikes, you are missing the point. The CHOICE should be between different AE's. As it stands, any AE that isn't a +% one is a dumb AE to have in comparison, hence people who use AE don't have a choice.

Tbh +% AE should just be removed and be done with it (while making a whole ton of new SA's that can only be used by AE and maybe as bonus SA's).

Its obvious to me that when making +% AE bort wasn't considering the effect they'd have (lol?) and since it is so much more powerful that SA's (since no SA is active every play for every relevant role for a given position) it should be removed from the game.

And don't listen to the people that are complaining in this thread. The people who don't like this change may be louder, but I can promise you that there are far more who like it and will have a happier glb experience because of it...
 
jdros13
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Originally posted by blitzboy
this, unfortunately, completely screws over some of my players, since that was my strategy while building them. i spent quite a bit of tokens trying to select specific pieces of equip to stack. in the meantime, other agents used those tokens to boost and build SP. hopefully, this was taken into consideration when deciding what the consolation was going to be. the equip offered (for this exchange only) should be much better than what we have in order to balance us with the builds that did not go this route (% aeq hunting).


I've done the same thing on some builds. 2 pieces of AEQ stacked will still probably work very well. The 3rd piece probably won't. Stacking with AEQ and VAs is a huge problem in the game right now, needed to be addressed.

I kind of agree with Wise that the % AEQ in general is an issue - removing the ability to stack the AEQ to ridiculous levels won't change the ability to stack VA's and AEQ which is where the bonuses get absurd right now.
 
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by silenthatred

It sure made me unnecessarily waste training points shopping for more +% AEQ that I could have used for something else...


Sure it did....And now will get to trade that % AEQ in on something else that may or may not have taken you as long to find, if you even choose to do so. 2 % pieces is still a very viable choice, IMO. The 3rd, you probably want to swap out.

I know it still kind of sucks, but it sucks for damn near every good dot builder out there and it is far from a build ruiner. Personally, I think forcing many positions to get 3 pieces of % AEQ (in order to be a great build) sucks a lot worse.


If I could actually buy any of those pieces, sure, but I passed on them all obviously waiting for a specific piece that won't matter as much now if I get it. I could have used those training points for something else, like intense training. To add to that, I have 3 +% pieces sitting in the store right now, but that didn't apply for me. It would be nice to be able to purchase one of them and at least recoup some lost points, but I can't. So they are lost forever. On a player that will only see 15 more SP.

I can agree with changing it, but changing stuff like this right in the middle of the season pretty much sucks. I have to adjust the builds of my lower players to deal with the archetype thing, which I guess I can deal with even if it means lower ALGs possibly training what are now minors for a season. But to have the game going one direction, and then announcing a change in that direction right in the middle of the season, instead of announcing it before the season started kinda sucks. I mean it's obvious this isn't a brand new idea.
Edited by silenthatred on Feb 14, 2010 11:25:19
 
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Originally posted by mrmattregan
Does anyone remember when this game was fun? These changes are stupid...

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Good change.
 
Arxo1
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Ok so anything u want to do to ur player is goning to get nerfed what is this world of war craft.
 
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Will I get spin or power thru SA for Break tackle chance ?
 
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