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telencephalon
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Originally posted by sjmay
It's already fucking calculated for you,

Holy christ do you not understand that??

You had to follow a budget before as well, there was just no ceiling on the salaries,

If you did not follow a budget before, you could not build your stadium,

Again, nothing has changed, time wise, they just swapped what you spend it on.

Are you intentionally being obtuse now???


Are you intentionally hyperventilating? Take a Xanax, gb.
 
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I really don't understand why they want to drastically change a system that has hooked all of us. I hope this isn't a HUGE mistake. 3 months from now, hopefully we will all be raving about how improved the game is. Right now, I'm sorta like you a little worried that these modifications are TOO DRASTIC and will damage the FUN FACTOR and force all of us to face new learning curves that I hope that I and and the rest of you are willing to take on. ...as of this writing, I'm not so certain what I think, except, confused O_o. Season 16 is gonna be a season we will all remember (whether positive or negative...time will tell). I have to hope Bort knows what he's doing?

Later,

Jim
 
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Originally posted by Cold Mountain Rebel
I really don't understand why they want to drastically change a system that has hooked all of us. I hope this isn't a HUGE mistake. 3 months from now, hopefully we will all be raving about how improved the game is. Right now, I'm sorta like you a little worried that these modifications are TOO DRASTIC and will damage the FUN FACTOR and force all of us to face new learning curves that I hope that I and and the rest of you are willing to take on. ...as of this writing, I'm not so certain what I think, except, confused o_O. Season 16 is gonna be a season we will all remember (whether positive or negative...time will tell). I have to hope Bort knows what he's doing?

Later,

Jim


Only time will tell. I think these changes will be a lot more intuitive and a lot less time-consuming than people are making it out to be. That's just my opinion though. Glad to see some people like you are willing to try the changes before they completely write them off and rage quit at the sight of implementation.
 
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Originally posted by redwing
Well, then maybe THAT team should get 15 seasons in until it gets money, right? I mean, it took 14 seasons to get this money.


The point is: Us veterans have spent countless f'in hours and money on this game, only to have our work be dismantled because some mental dwarfs don't know how to run a team and save money. In life, if you make good decisions you are rewarded for them, if you make bad decisions you pay for them.........BOTTOM LINE! I'm not saying that some teams aren't f'in the system by having farm systems etc. What you SHOULD do is have some balls and ban them if they do. You know who they are, but do nothing about it, THAT is why we are in this position right now. If you guys had the balls, we wouldn't be in this situation!!
 
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Originally posted by UsCtRoJaNs1820
And I don't. It's gotten worse. We didn't have tons of CPU's and 255-0 scores for a while. Since about season 9-10 the competitiveness of this game has gone completely done hill. AA, AAA and Pro leagues used to be competitive and you didn't have Bort begging teams to move up. That is a constant in this game now and has been for 3-4 seasons.


And the minor leagues are HUGE (and sorted pretty competitively as well), Decline of S1 and S2 dots caused a lot of thinning in the upper levels, the dot ages are more spread out now and there wont be another massive drop like there was. But there are TONS of well run cap built teams in the minors, in the next 2-4 season you will see the upper levels teeming with good squads.
 
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Originally posted by redwing
only to have our work be dismantled


yeah, gutting a team and filling it with CPU/level 1s is a lot of work fo sho
 
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Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
That's probably why they are letting you keep your money at all.


In more than one way buddy, if you only knew!
 
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Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
in the next 2-4 season you will see the upper levels teeming with good squads.

Why do I get the feeling that we've seen that promise for the past...2-4 seasons?
 
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Originally posted by Lazer Noble
which one is it? seems like you only offer one outcome.





That's kind of the point.


 
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Originally posted by redwing
Originally posted by redwing

Well, then maybe THAT team should get 15 seasons in until it gets money, right? I mean, it took 14 seasons to get this money.


The point is: Us veterans have spent countless f'in hours and money on this game, only to have our work be dismantled because some mental dwarfs don't know how to run a team and save money. In life, if you make good decisions you are rewarded for them, if you make bad decisions you pay for them.........BOTTOM LINE! I'm not saying that some teams aren't f'in the system by having farm systems etc. What you SHOULD do is have some balls and ban them if they do. You know who they are, but do nothing about it, THAT is why we are in this position right now. If you guys had the balls, we wouldn't be in this situation!!


Ok let me put it this way. Let's say you sold your AAA team and started over 5 seasons ago. I'm not sure if that's really how long ago it was, but just for the sake of argument. And let's also say at the time you gutted, you dropped down with 90 million in the bank, and a full stadium.

Now let's say someone wanted to gut and start over with their AAA team last season. They would be left with only 1.5 mil in the bank, and a reset stadium.

Was the second owner a mental dwarf who made bad decisions with his money? I'd hope you wouldn't say yes, because he did the exact same thing you did, except he was a victim of circumstance, and happened to do it after GLB closed that loophole. The reason they're doing this has absolutely nothing to do with owners who were bad with their money. It has everything to do with creating an equal opportunity and playing field for everybody, especially since we are giving a much bigger importance to money and salary than in the past.

This is not a "bail out" or "communism". It's a completely new system, so we're starting with a clean slate. It's a beta game...it happens.
 
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Originally posted by Deathblade
yeah, gutting a team and filling it with CPU/level 1s is a lot of work fo sho


You are an ignorant piece of shit, and most agree with me!
 
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Originally posted by Ravenwood

Why do I get the feeling that we've seen that promise for the past...2-4 seasons?


The upper levels are teeming with good squads, not sure where you see different
 
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Originally posted by Fumanchuchu


That's kind of the point.




just don't see why going from BBB to Pro in 8 seasons and scrimping the whole way gets shafted. But its 2010...bailouts are the buzz.

They should do a blowout adjusted stat to teams money.
Edited by Lazer Noble on Apr 18, 2010 21:24:47
 
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Originally posted by redwing
Originally posted by Sik Wit It

Because you can pay everyone a Max Salary and buy a bunch of these bonuses that the team who started out with 1.5 mil in the bank can't afford.


Well, then maybe THAT team should get 15 seasons in until it gets money, right? I mean, it took 14 seasons to get this money.


I understand the reason you're so mad is you're losing a bunch of money that you have managed well. I understand that. It would be somewhat frustrating to me too. Is it better for the game though? That's what you have to ask yourself. You can't tell me it's fair you can drop down with 125 mil and a full stadium when owners who try to do that now will be left with 1.5 mil and an empty stadium.

The fact that you think you should be entitled to this advantage just because you've been playing the game longer is really selfish, and completely ridiculous. You did, reset your team and start over right? So your current team has been around for lets say 5 seasons, and they have over $100,000,000 more than the team that starts at the same time, and for what exactly? Gutting and starting over?
 
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Originally posted by redwing
What i'm saying is: It doesn't matter if we have more money, we're playing in the 30 cap with level 27 players, now how the hell is THAT having an advantage? TELL ME!


You were able to pay high salaries and bonuses to recruit and you could use your stash of money for EQ upgrades without needing to worry about stadium upgrades. If you had a few holes in the roster you could pay max cash to trade for top players from other teams that were going CPU.
Edited by QB Eater on Apr 18, 2010 21:26:28
 
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