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Deathblade
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Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
Are you suggesting that a huge bankroll isn't that much of an advantage?

If it's not, then why don't you mind losing it?

Either it's a huge advantage that causes competitive balance issues, so it should be changed.

Or it's not a big deal, and you shouldn't mind the change.

Which one is it?


but goddamnit they earned it

they gutted and filled their rosters with level 1s, so they are entitled to millions upon millions of dollars
 
Sik Wit It
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Originally posted by redwing
Originally posted by Sik Wit It

What? What the hell does money have to do with it? Is that what you just asked me? I really don't even know what to say to that. You've been the one all over these threads the past 4 days saying how you're going to gut your team time after time again because they're taking your money away. I've literally seen you post almost the exact same thing like 50 times in the last 4 days, then you say what the hell does money have to do with it?

I also don't know how you got "So you're saying that because some of us have been playing since season 1 we should not have an accomplished team accumulated?" out of my post.


What i'm saying is: It doesn't matter if we have more money, we're playing in the 30 cap with level 27 players, now how the hell is THAT having an advantage? TELL ME!


Let me ask you this...if you believe there's no advantage gained by having all this money in the bank, and equipment is now becoming FREE, then why does it matter at all what happens to your money?
 
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Originally posted by sjmay
Salary cap, luxury tax and moral reserve,

ARE ALREADY PROGRAMMED FOR YOU

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO A SINGLE THING IN REGARDS TO THIS.


You don't have to follow a budget and conform to a salary cap when signing players? What an interesting concept.
 
Lazer Noble
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Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
Are you suggesting that a huge bankroll isn't that much of an advantage?

If it's not, then why don't you mind losing it?

Either it's a huge advantage that causes competitive balance issues, so it should be changed.

Or it's not a big deal, so you shouldn't mind the change.

Which one is it?


which one is it? seems like you only offer one outcome.

 
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Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
All I've seen over that past 3 seasons is stronger and stronger league competition. That's been getting better, not worse. And many of the changes that got flamed are responsible for it.


The competition only got shifted. The elite leagues are fairly competitive, altho there are still plenty of 50+ losses (and really, that might look better than 255-0, but the loser really was not going to win that one regardless). However, the Normal leagues are complete crap and have all the non-competitive games that used to be distributed amongst all the leagues.

The old way had 6 leagues with 40% competitive games. The new way has 2 leagues with 80% competitive games and 3 leagues with 20% competitive games. Same competitiveness overall, just shifted around to appear more competitive to some. I did a tracking of alot of minor leagues last season, so while those are rounded numbers, they are not made up.
 
Lazer Noble
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Originally posted by Deathblade
but goddamnit they earned it

they gutted and filled their rosters with level 1s, so they are entitled to millions upon millions of dollars


no we didn't champ
 
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Originally posted by Sik Wit It
Originally posted by redwing

Originally posted by Sik Wit It


What? What the hell does money have to do with it? Is that what you just asked me? I really don't even know what to say to that. You've been the one all over these threads the past 4 days saying how you're going to gut your team time after time again because they're taking your money away. I've literally seen you post almost the exact same thing like 50 times in the last 4 days, then you say what the hell does money have to do with it?

I also don't know how you got "So you're saying that because some of us have been playing since season 1 we should not have an accomplished team accumulated?" out of my post.


What i'm saying is: It doesn't matter if we have more money, we're playing in the 30 cap with level 27 players, now how the hell is THAT having an advantage? TELL ME!


Let me ask you this...if you believe there's no advantage gained by having all this money in the bank, and equipment is now becoming FREE, then why does it matter at all what happens to your money?


This is like watching tennis!
 
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Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
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What competitiveness are you talking about? 255-0 games aren't competitive and not to mention how many CPU teams we have. That's the real problem with GLB that should have been first on the agenda but season after season it simply gets ignored.


All I've seen over that past 3 seasons is stronger and stronger league competition. That's been getting better, not worse. And many of the changes that got flamed are responsible for it.


And I don't. It's gotten worse. We didn't have tons of CPU's and 255-0 scores for a while. Since about season 9-10 the competitiveness of this game has gone completely done hill. AA, AAA and Pro leagues used to be competitive and you didn't have Bort begging teams to move up. That is a constant in this game now and has been for 3-4 seasons.
 
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Originally posted by Sik Wit It
Because you can pay everyone a Max Salary and buy a bunch of these bonuses that the team who started out with 1.5 mil in the bank can't afford.


Well, then maybe THAT team should get 15 seasons in until it gets money, right? I mean, it took 14 seasons to get this money.
 
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Originally posted by telencephalon
You don't have to follow a budget and conform to a salary cap when signing players? What an interesting concept.


It's already fucking calculated for you,

Holy christ do you not understand that??

You had to follow a budget before as well, there was just no ceiling on the salaries,

If you did not follow a budget before, you could not build your stadium,

Again, nothing has changed, time wise, they just swapped what you spend it on.

Are you intentionally being obtuse now???
 
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Originally posted by redwing
What i'm saying is: It doesn't matter if we have more money, we're playing in the 30 cap with level 27 players, now how the hell is THAT having an advantage? TELL ME!


Then you have nothing to complain about.

That line of logic literally forfeits the argument for you.
Edited by Fumanchuchu on Apr 18, 2010 21:07:52
 
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Originally posted by redwing
Well, then maybe THAT team should get 15 seasons in until it gets money, right? I mean, it took 14 seasons to get this money.


And 1 season do demote to cap 14 to try and spend it all IS that your point?
 
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Originally posted by dviss1
Originally posted by Sik Wit It

Originally posted by redwing


Originally posted by Sik Wit It



What? What the hell does money have to do with it? Is that what you just asked me? I really don't even know what to say to that. You've been the one all over these threads the past 4 days saying how you're going to gut your team time after time again because they're taking your money away. I've literally seen you post almost the exact same thing like 50 times in the last 4 days, then you say what the hell does money have to do with it?

I also don't know how you got "So you're saying that because some of us have been playing since season 1 we should not have an accomplished team accumulated?" out of my post.


What i'm saying is: It doesn't matter if we have more money, we're playing in the 30 cap with level 27 players, now how the hell is THAT having an advantage? TELL ME!


Let me ask you this...if you believe there's no advantage gained by having all this money in the bank, and equipment is now becoming FREE, then why does it matter at all what happens to your money?


This is like watching tennis!


Game, set, and match imo.
 
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Originally posted by Sik Wit It
Game, set, and match imo.


LN 40 DB Love
 
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Originally posted by redwing
Well, then maybe THAT team should get 15 seasons in until it gets money, right? I mean, it took 14 seasons to get this money.


That's probably why they are letting you keep your money at all.
 
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