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Originally posted by Dpride59
Glb is still a great game, you idiots just lack the understanding that even the greatest games of all time aren't going to be awesome after you play them for 4 consecutive years

yep

SO wait... After the first season of this, you have to make the playoffs to stay in pro right? Which means EVERY season there will be 64 new pro teams, 16 of them coming from WL. So 48 Regional pro teams coming to pro every season am i right?

Pro should stay as is for the promotions. Top 2 move up, bottom 2 move down.

Originally posted by jallowe
Pro should stay as is for the promotions. Top 2 move up, bottom 2 move down.

making the playoffs as a requirement puts pressure on people to gameplan though

Originally posted by Dr. Showtime
making the playoffs as a requirement puts pressure on people to gameplan though

Increased burn out.

Originally posted by aglass65
Originally posted by Redass Ranch

So currently 128 National Pro Teams make the playoffs
16 promote to WL, leaving 112 National Pro Playoffs teams, but only 80 will get auto invite to "New 4 Pro Leagues"

Thus 32 teams will be in limbo?

Originally posted by Catch22

Those 32 will get demoted to Regional Pro.

Something is wrong with this, and it's cause 18 Reg. Pro teams are coming from Two Leagues (this season). In reality only 4 of them should go to the New 4 Pro. That frees up 14 spots, reducing the 32 down to 18.

Now let's look at Regional Comp. getting 14 spots. There are 6 Leagues, and seriously, how many of those teams deserve to bump a National Pro Playoff team from this season?

WL is make the playoffs or demote, and National Pro is don't lose first round.



And I don't agree with this sentiment...

Originally posted by Bladnach
It's a 1 time thing. It will obviously be a bit weird the transition offseason but that's how it goes. So tough shit for them. Bort announced it in the preseason so they know they have to bust their ass in the 1st round. No other way to make it go down to 4 leagues.

Most of these teams that will get bumped are teams that "just" promoted out of Regional Pro this past season, and now will go back down and get replaced by teams that they beat.

Long story short, less teams need to Promote out of Regional Pro at the end of this season... 32 teams is too many (18 Elite & 14 Comp)... should be 4 out of Elite (Trophy Winners Silver & Gold) and 6 out of Comp (Gold Only Winners). This Reduces the Pro Playoff Demotes to 10.... the next step is to Pre Determine the "tie-breaker" for how these 10 teams will be selected (lowest playoff seed, lowest GLB rankings, etc...)

Originally posted by Dpride59
Glb is still a great game, you idiots just lack the understanding that even the greatest games of all time aren't going to be awesome after you play them for 4 consecutive years

Nope, there has been a number of decisions made in this game as well as great indecision that has turned this game on it's heels. This thread discusses one of those things.

How long did it take to get rid of SSB? Another was the idea to come out with the free player slot well after all the non-boosters left. Doing away with league identity for the minors, anyone?

I'm not posting things like this to bitch, but rather I would like for the admins/devs to learn from their past mistakes rather than continuing to repeat them.

Originally posted by jallowe
Pro should stay as is for the promotions. Top 2 move up, bottom 2 move down.

Id meet in the middle and suggest 4/4. Not because of Pro teams demoting, but I dont believe you can find that many Regional Pro teams of quality to come up each season.

Originally posted by jtrav21
Id meet in the middle and suggest 4/4. Not because of Pro teams demoting, but I dont believe you can find that many Regional Pro teams of quality to come up each season.

Keeping the 2 and 2, not only strengthens Pro but will also strengthen Reg Pro (or whatever it will be called). It will make teams try harder to get to Pro, like in seasons past. And not just coast, auto-pilot, or swap with CPUs.

Maybe the bottom 4 will help some, but it gives no real drive to win your league. It plays to the "we can just win 2 playoff games and we promote" which is the equivalent of giving everyone on the team a "participation trophy".

there still needs to be incentive to STAY in pro though

if you don't demote enough you just get a couple teams hardly skating by by going 2-14 every season

Originally posted by Dr. Showtime
there still needs to be incentive to STAY in pro though

if you don't demote enough you just get a couple teams hardly skating by by going 2-14 every season

With fewer spots in Pro, with a higher % of those team trying to get to WL, how long do you think those 2-14 teams will stay in Pro without trying? 2 seasons. When the Reg Pro champs come up there are 2 less teams they are better then. The 2-14 teams become the 15th & 16th teams in Pro.

I hate to tell people, but at the top level of the game you have to gameplan for every single game. That is just waht the game is. If you don't want to do that you should go casual. For most teams and people on them I would say their top priority should be partitioning the workload in a sustainable way and also in coming up with a very quick and efficient way to scout that is still effective. Do this and you will be able to gameplan for every game without putting an excess workload on any one person and without any one person getting burnt out.

If your goal is really to make it to WL and stay there, then realistically you should already have accepted that you are going to be gameplanning for every game - again if you didn't want to do this, you shouldn't aim to play at the highest level of the game. This game is player building AND tactics. The tactics are integral - they are a huge part of what the game is. If you don't want to do them, then play casual. Anyway, if your goal is to make it to WL and stay there, then having to gameplan every game in the national Pro leagues will get you ready for this a lot more than Pro now.

Two big reasons people go one and done in WL are first because their players aren't good enough. They go to an easy pro league (one of the Europes, OPL or Africa) and only have 3-4 games that really challenge their roster, so when they hit the playoffs they win the first game easily, then gameplan their butts off the next two rounds and win and they are in WL, where every game they play will probably be as hard as their league championship game and they just don't have the players to pull that off. The second reason teams go one and done in WL is they don't know how to gameplan well or efficiently. They gameplan for max 5-6 games a season including the playoffs so when they have to gameplan for every game they either can't sustain it because they don't have the workload split up or because they haven't really come up with an efficient way to do it due to not really having to have one in the past.

Having said all this I have a very strong hunch that bort is working on some sort of intermediate tactics. I am not sure if it will replace regular tactics or be a separate league system like casual is now. Basically I am very sure he is working on something, but wildly speculating on what it is he is doing because I really have no idea.

Not reading the rest of the thread, but ldo:

North American Pro League (USA Conference and Canada Conference)
South (?) Pro League (African Conference and South American Conference)
European Pro League (Western Conference and Eastern Conference)
East (?) Pro League (Southeast Asia Conference and Oceania Conference)

Originally posted by tpaterniti
I am not sure if it will replace regular tactics or be a separate league system like casual is now.

I have been begging for this for a long time. Would love to have a league where we use just use AI without custom slots and DPC. Basically where the game was at right after AIs were added.