Warrior General Games

Originally posted by iMan
Originally posted by xManning1018x

Originally posted by Air18



The best pass rushing DE in all of GLB soft capped vision. Don't tell me vision is not important.


He also has around 90 speed and 60-70 agility. I don't think vision is that important for DEs.

Im assuming we are talking about Julius Dee
soft caps vision and second caps agi and plus the special plus all other stats, no way in hell can he have 90 spd.

Your build is great and works, his build is hella crazy and it includes lots of vision. vision may not be important for you but it your build is not that same as everyone else build


If you guys are discussing my DE, I can tell you that his speed with equipment is over 90.

As far as vision goes, I think it's overrated for many offensive positions and underrated for many defensive positions.

Originally posted by decaye
Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN

Vision is a great skill for alot of positions. WR is not one of those positions. Vision does not directly corrolate to catching, I can assure you.

128 catches. 14 drops. Low vision.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=46636

As you get faster you need more catching to track the ball. A level 2 with 20 catching catches better than a level 20 with 40 catching because the low level player is moving slower, hence can catch the ball easier.

Also as your catching goes up, the bubble of passes you attempt to catch raises, resulting in more drops as well as more completions.

You will never have zero drops as a WR, whether you have 15 vision or 70 vision. Well actually perhaps the 70 vision WR would have zero drops cause he never gets thrown at because he's not open...

Wrong

Care to elaborate on what part of the very true statement i made is wrong?

what if WR vision has nothing to do with catching but route running. for example, if the play calls for a post route, high vision allows the WR to cut underneath the CB and stay open. or the WR will see a blitz and hot route. or the WR is running a choice route and he chooses the more open one because he can calculate the threats correctly.

if a WR's route running is affected by vision (which makes sense, as route running requires examining threats), then vision is a very good minor skill to train and then get to a decent level.

I'm about 97.83% sure that Bort has said vision helps with catching.

Originally posted by Forbin
I'm about 97.83% sure that Bort has said vision helps with catching.

Truth

Originally posted by SyedAshrafulla
what if WR vision has nothing to do with catching but route running. for example, if the play calls for a post route, high vision allows the WR to cut underneath the CB and stay open. or the WR will see a blitz and hot route. or the WR is running a choice route and he chooses the more open one because he can calculate the threats correctly.

if a WR's route running is affected by vision (which makes sense, as route running requires examining threats), then vision is a very good minor skill to train and then get to a decent level.

If it makes sense it's probably true - that's what Bort says .

vision is awesome for WR's. I have added a bunch this last season and went from averaging 500-600 yards and a few TD's a season to almost 1000 and 10+ TD's on a team with an OK offense. It works better for possession type WR a bit better though.

i kinda have to agree w/ the thread title...

Originally posted by James Gang
vision is awesome for WR's. I have added a bunch this last season and went from averaging 500-600 yards and a few TD's a season to almost 1000 and 10+ TD's on a team with an OK offense. It works better for possession type WR a bit better though.

My possession WR had a +1000 yard season with only 22 vision.

vision should probably be the primary stat for FB.

Originally posted by Viscount
Originally posted by James Gang

vision is awesome for WR's. I have added a bunch this last season and went from averaging 500-600 yards and a few TD's a season to almost 1000 and 10+ TD's on a team with an OK offense. It works better for possession type WR a bit better though.

My possession WR had a +1000 yard season with only 22 vision.

my power RB had 1,500+ yards & 21 TD's w/ 25 vision...

Originally posted by ssaints4ever
Originally posted by Viscount

Originally posted by James Gang


vision is awesome for WR's. I have added a bunch this last season and went from averaging 500-600 yards and a few TD's a season to almost 1000 and 10+ TD's on a team with an OK offense. It works better for possession type WR a bit better though.

My possession WR had a +1000 yard season with only 22 vision.

my power RB had 1,500+ yards & 21 TD's w/ 25 vision...

The HBs on my team (we have two who split time evenly) combined for 4500 yards and 80 TDs with 42 vision on one and 35 vision on the other. I think we can all come up with examples of players who did well with or without vision.

Originally posted by remaxjon
Please stop telling people its important

Positions that don't need great vision

DE, DT, TE, FB, HB, WR, OT, OG, CB, FS, SS, OLB

What say you

I don't understand how you can list CB here. There is a SA named "Super Vision". Doesn't that tell you enough about how important it is to the CB position?

Originally posted by Motiak
Originally posted by ssaints4ever

Originally posted by Viscount


Originally posted by James Gang



vision is awesome for WR's. I have added a bunch this last season and went from averaging 500-600 yards and a few TD's a season to almost 1000 and 10+ TD's on a team with an OK offense. It works better for possession type WR a bit better though.

My possession WR had a +1000 yard season with only 22 vision.

my power RB had 1,500+ yards & 21 TD's w/ 25 vision...

The HBs on my team (we have two who split time evenly) combined for 4500 yards and 80 TDs with 42 vision on one and 35 vision on the other. I think we can all come up with examples of players who did well with or without vision.

Which clearly means that vision is not a factor in how well they're playing!

Originally posted by Viscount
Originally posted by Motiak

Originally posted by ssaints4ever


Originally posted by Viscount



Originally posted by James Gang




vision is awesome for WR's. I have added a bunch this last season and went from averaging 500-600 yards and a few TD's a season to almost 1000 and 10+ TD's on a team with an OK offense. It works better for possession type WR a bit better though.

My possession WR had a +1000 yard season with only 22 vision.

my power RB had 1,500+ yards & 21 TD's w/ 25 vision...

The HBs on my team (we have two who split time evenly) combined for 4500 yards and 80 TDs with 42 vision on one and 35 vision on the other. I think we can all come up with examples of players who did well with or without vision.

Which clearly means that vision is not a factor in how well they're playing!

Or that there are too many factors to tell with any certainty whether it makes a big difference. The best you can do is compare players within leagues since they'll basically have the same level of competition.