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WiSeIVIaN
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Link to original Pro petition (I can't bump because >60days old):
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5332744&page=1

Originally posted by From Original Thread

Late in the seasons before dotpocolypse, there was a lot of bullshit going on which is no fun for anyone (fake AI's to throw games to help other teams in a network, etc). Heck at one point like 60 seasons ago jdbolick threw a game against another independent team to knock me off a playoff spot.

Game throwing, or colluding in any way to help other teams, is clearly unfun bullshit. I understand everyone doing it makes it a no-win situation. So I implore you all to try to win every game, even if it's against another team you own. Even if losing rd1 of the playoffs gets your network 2 WL teams, and winning rd1 of the playoffs might only get your network 1 WL team.

No reason that multiple teams should be working together (read as win-sharing, colluding, cheating) to gain an advantage over independent teams.


In summary, you play to win the game! This is an online browser gamer. Anyone throwing games on purpose is making dotball a worse place to be.
 
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S105 wk16 has a clear violation of this by WAR MACHINE. War never signed the original petition, but this move is still shitty and should be called out as a shitty thing. WAR lost the game on purpose so Asau would get the #3 seed.

While I fully understand the "desire" to throw games to get easier playoff matchups, if everyone does this it makes the game worse and less fun.

https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/game.pl?game_id=26521

I will encourage sportzdude3 to share his regret and promise not to do so in the future...
 
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To be fair, what was gained from this? I guess I don't see how BIA is any easier than OPT. I wouldn't want to play either, lol.
 
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If there was nothing to be gained then it makes even less sense to do it.

But the advantage/line of thinking is to not have to play me potentially twice to reach the championship. WM has their work cut out for them regardless and it's not the end of the world but it was clearly done in an effort to pit my two teams against each other in the first round.
Edited by RyanCane26 on Apr 3, 2024 11:07:07
 
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If it's true, it's sad. I thought CL was all about playing the best teams, no easy games, everything earned, etc.
 
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Originally posted by Pwned
To be fair, what was gained from this? I guess I don't see how BIA is any easier than OPT. I wouldn't want to play either, lol.


Either WAR saw BiA as easier than OPT, or prefered not to have to triple barrel playoff wins against RC, or preferred to knock RC down to max 2teams in rd2.

Regardless though, it's an unfit act. Let's say the team they decided to lose against as on the playoff bubble and them losing the game got them a better playoff matchup (but as a result let the team they threw against into the playoffs and knocked another team out).

End of the day, we are all here to have fun, and losing games on purpose to manipulate standings is unrealistic compared to modern sports and is inherently unfun.
 
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Again, pre-snap GLB became this game-throwing hell-hole and this is a step back to that direction. Try to win the games on your schedule, it is not that hard to NOT intentionally put in a fake "I want to lose" AI like WAR did here.
 
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Originally posted by Pwned
If it's true, it's sad. I thought CL was all about playing the best teams, no easy games, everything earned, etc.


Explain 2 pass attempts wk16? No "if" required.

https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=4844331
 
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Explain 2 pass attempts wk16? No "if" required.

https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=4844331


https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=26521&pbp_id=778904

Lol
 
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Shenanigans like this should lead to automatic demotion
 
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Explain 2 pass attempts wk16? No "if" required.

https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=4844331


It's pretty obvious the more I look at it.

Originally posted by Kegergator
Shenanigans like this should lead to automatic demotion


Agreed, I wish there was a way to make these people more accountable. I was actually pulling hard for WAR MACHINE, now I can't imagine myself including them in any of my super biased rankings.

 
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Originally posted by Tomcic
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=26521&pbp_id=778904

Lol


qb slam on 3rd and long
 
Bluesman
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So they threw the game so they wouldn't have to play Orlando who they beat against having a mini helmet against them a few games ago just to play BIA who beat them twice this season already.
 
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Originally posted by Bluesman
So they threw the game so they wouldn't have to play Orlando who they beat against having a mini helmet against them a few games ago just to play BIA who beat them twice this season already.


At first I also found this a bit confusing, like it was more of a gameplan mistake. I've done it. Add a package at the top with the wrong situational settings could ruin an entire offense. It was a Goaline Input and it fired every play the entire game, haha. I forgot to put OPP 5 to OPP G in the setting.

Edited by Pwned on Apr 3, 2024 17:29:14
 
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Originally posted by Pwned
At first I also found this a bit confusing, like it was more of a gameplan mistake. I've done it. Add a package at the top with the wrong situational settings could ruin an entire offense. It was a Goaline Input and it fired every play the entire game, haha. I forgot to put OPP 5 to OPP G in the setting.



It doesn't appear to be a game plan mistake. They ran the ball on 3rd and long plays. they had a 4th and inches on the Orlando 43 and punted the ball. Looked at 3 of their other games against Jackels, Orlando and Asau where they go for it on 4th and a yard or less.

The owner, OC and the DC all logged on after I did my post, either they don't look in the forums or ignored what was being said.
You would think at least if it was an error in the game plan that the owner would come out trying to explain what happened.


 
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