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Originally posted by LeeRJet
is it best to enhance your training att to 3 stars before opening up a new multi-training spot?


No, normally you get your 3 multi training spots open then enhance as you go along
 
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Basic build plan for any .5 ALG dot
If going strength first then pick one pound below the maximum. If picking speed first then pick one pound above the minimum. Enhance the first attribute to 10%, train intense three times, enhance to 20%, then train intense until you have a nearly full bar at 32.9x without equipment on Day 48. Convert 15 bonus tokens to a skill point and cap to 48.9x. Then boost. Next season you'll enhance to 30% and normal train, then second cap, then continue normal training, then third cap. At that point you'll unlock and enhance your attributes for multi-training. Unlock the first, second, and third attributes you plan to cap and enhance all to 30% when possible. Use the free first slot to rotate any other attributes you plan to cap eventually, enhancing each to 10%. Continue multi-training until the first attribute reaches anywhere between 90 and 100 depending upon your build plan. Skill points should be spent in the first attribute until it reaches between 73 and 85 depending upon your build plan and how many attributes you eventually need to increase.


That's designed to get the first attribute up as quickly as possible to accumulate ALGs. You do the weight trick so that you're just under the .97 decimal for the third cap at level 7, otherwise you end up wasting two ALGs and there was no point in racing up that fast anyway. For 0.4 ALG dots I haven't figured out anything quite so simple, but in general you should probably pick max or min weight and then go to multi-training right after the second cap. 0.67 ALG dots don't need to worry about weight either and shouldn't unlock the first attribute but should push it really hard in the beginning.


I start with this for a foundation then go forth as follows;
#1, WHAT you are building the dot for takes priority. For your basic archetype, I follow JD to the letter... but for special builds, I deviate. Example; Building a BLOCKING WR that can still contribute in the passing game. I would start with the tallest setting and the heaviest setting instead of JD's setup. I want the height for the lack of jumping I know shall occur during the build and the weight for helping him with his blocking.
#2, I first apply BT's to primary skill training enhancement... then I light train one time... apply more BT's to training enhancement... now intense train being sure to get my primary to 3rd star training enhancement when it becomes available.
#3, on last day of season, do my boosts one at a time instead of all 3 at once. If done right, you should be able to hit 1st cap on primary at this time. IMPORTANT! ONLY spend SP's on primary skill at the start of the build. NEVER on other skills or on SA's.
#4, continue on Intense training of primary, capping whenever it becomes possible to do so. Save BT's for opening up training slots for multi-training.
#5, once you can open up 3 slots to multi-train (4 total counting the open/free slot) you now have a choice to make and this entirely depends on your build plan. Either purchase your primary as one of the 'fixed' slots or DON'T purchase your primary as a fixed slot, instead using the 'open/free' slot for training your primary. My basic thought on this is that; If your dot relies heavily on one particular skill (Say Speed for a returner or Strength for an O-lineman), then I would purchase the primary and train it for the entirety of the dot's life. If I plan on stopping training on the primary skill somewhere in the dot's life, then I do NOT purchase the primary as a fixed slot.
#6, and the most important of all, HAVE A PLAN and STICK TO THE PLAN COMPLETELY. So many builds get f'd up because you try to sneak in a few SP's to stamina or some such things that were NOT in your plan. My worst dots were dots where I 'ad-libbed' along the way. My best dots have always been ones where I stuck to the plan from the very start until the very end.




Originally posted by LeeRJet
is it best to enhance your training att to 3 stars before opening up a new multi-training spot?


I would say the advantage of being able to get the gains from using multi-training is worth going ahead and getting the multi-training going first, then adding the stars asap afterwards. I generally don't have that issue much though. Once I'm ready to switch from intense to multi-training I usually have enough BT's to enhance everything. However, if I do NOT, I make sure the stars are applied in the order of most important skill to least important.
 
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Originally posted by Bluesman
No, normally you get your 3 multi training spots open then enhance as you go along


lol no. intense your main and continue to enhance it during your first season
 
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
lol no. intense your main and continue to enhance it during your first season


my main is 3 star enhanced (where I take it and stop enhancing) long before the dot's first "season" has begun.
 
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
lol no. intense your main and continue to enhance it during your first season


Yes you do intense your main and enhance that one before anything else.

Unless I read LeeRJet's post wrong as i could have how I took it is he was asking if you should enhance the three attr's first before starting multi training.
After you enhance that first attr to what you want then you start saving your training pts for multi training(as you continue to train that attr on intense) and depending on when you start multi then you start enhancing the three attrs that you choose as you go along

As far as when you start multi training, well it is up to the individual when you start doing that. I don't think that there is a 100% right way of doing it as long as you do it smart.

You intense your first attr the first full season, nothing wrong with that, some people intense their first one until they have enough tp to open up multi training which is usually around the middle of the season and your first attr is aprox around 74

I was curious one time and built two DT's the same way using both those 2 methods
The one that I intense trained for the first full season ended up with 1 more in his strength but ended up with 2 less in speed 3 less in vision and 1 less in confidence.
( I don't remember the exact training but I was as little surprised that the strength on the one was only one point higher,kind of expecting the strength to be at least 2 higher, figured I just did something wrong with him)
Also these two dots I put 4 pcs of aeq on them, if I was to go with only 3 that might of changed things also being you multi train longer.
 
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my question is do you unlock the multi training first and then enhance...or do you enhance as you unlock multi training.
in other words: you enhance your first att to 3 stars, that's a given...
then unlock your 2nd and enhance 3 stars, then unlock your 3rd and enhance 3 stars, then unlock your 4th and enhance
OR do you unlock the 2nd, 3rd and 4th and THEN start to enhance them?
 
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Originally posted by LeeRJet
my question is do you unlock the multi training first and then enhance...or do you enhance as you unlock multi training.
in other words: you enhance your first att to 3 stars, that's a given...
then unlock your 2nd and enhance 3 stars, then unlock your 3rd and enhance 3 stars, then unlock your 4th and enhance
OR do you unlock the 2nd, 3rd and 4th and THEN start to enhance them?


No you unlock your three multi training attrs then enhance as you go along, at least thats how I always did it.
 
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Edited by Bluesman on Jan 25, 2015 08:16:22
 
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Originally posted by Bluesman
Originally posted by ProfessionalKop

lol no. intense your main and continue to enhance it during your first season


Yes you do intense your main and enhance that one before anything else.

Unless I read LeeRJet's post wrong as i could have how I took it is he was asking if you should enhance the three attr's first before starting multi training.
After you enhance that first attr to what you want then you start saving your training pts for multi training(as you continue to train that attr on intense) and depending on when you start multi then you start enhancing the three attrs that you choose as you go along

As far as when you start multi training, well it is up to the individual when you start doing that. I don't think that there is a 100% right way of doing it as long as you do it smart.

You intense your first attr the first full season, nothing wrong with that, some people intense their first one until they have enough tp to open up multi training which is usually around the middle of the season and your first attr is aprox around 74

I was curious one time and built two DT's the same way using both those 2 methods
The one that I intense trained for the first full season ended up with 1 more in his strength but ended up with 2 less in speed 3 less in vision and 1 less in confidence.
( I don't remember the exact training but I was as little surprised that the strength on the one was only one point higher,kind of expecting the strength to be at least 2 higher, figured I just did something wrong with him)
Also these two dots I put 4 pcs of aeq on them, if I was to go with only 3 that might of changed things also being you multi train longer.


using JD's guide I believe you end up starting multi-training around day 7 of your first season

remember, that first attribute stays in your multi train until the dot is around 200 days old
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
using JD's guide I believe you end up starting multi-training around day 7 of your first season

remember, that first attribute stays in your multi train until the dot is around 200 days old


I saw that using JD's guide and how he starts out, never tried using his guide as of yet just read it at times. So then if you do use his guide and that first attr stays in the multi training until around day 200 I would take it that would be used if you were only shooting for 3 pcs of aeq?
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw

using JD's guide I believe you end up starting multi-training around day 7 of your first season

remember, that first attribute stays in your multi train until the dot is around 200 days old


I saw that using JD's guide and how he starts out, never tried using his guide as of yet just read it at times. So then if you do use his guide and that first attr stays in the multi training until around day 200 I would take it that would be used if you were only shooting for 3 pcs of aeq?


correct

here is one as an example - added SP to strength until it was 80, then moved on

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4428637

if going for 4 AE, I would probably take strength to 83 and stop multi around 160 when strenth hits 100 through ALG's and training
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
correct

here is one as an example - added SP to strength until it was 80, then moved on

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4428637

if going for 4 AE, I would probably take strength to 83 and stop multi around 160 when strenth hits 100 through ALG's and training


Not bad, was just looking at yours compared to one of mine but mine has 4 aeq so a little bit of a difference
http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4520624

like the extra blocking and agility in yours

Will have to try jd's plan sometime that's if the game stays up that long
 
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Originally posted by Bluesman


Unless I read LeeRJet's post wrong


i may have read it wrong. idk. this whole thread is full of long posts im not going back to read.
 
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Originally posted by Bluesman
I saw that using JD's guide and how he starts out, never tried using his guide as of yet just read it at times. So then if you do use his guide and that first attr stays in the multi training until around day 200 I would take it that would be used if you were only shooting for 3 pcs of aeq?

It can be used for 3 AEQ or 4 AEQ. I usually wait to decide which way I'll go depending upon how lucky my rolls are.
 
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