Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Sellars
Oh hey look, another lvl 41 doter giving out epic advice.

just fishing. I see a lot of the same build and a lot of shooting down anyting contrary to said build. soundslike idol worship. we could all go to hell for this.

also i just thnk giving a cb 160 peed because a wr has 160 speed is kind of short sighted....they play very different positons.

Like a chess match or whatever. guy moves apiece you dont have to make the same move to win. in fact if youve played the game for 5 years maybe you realized there are a million and one ways to keep it interestin. try 150 vision is my official advice. He will be so smart.....

Originally posted by quixo
also i just thnk giving a cb 160 peed because a wr has 160 speed is kind of short sighted....they play very different positons.

Originally posted by quixo
Like a chess match or whatever. guy moves apiece you dont have to make the same move to win. in fact if youve played the game for 5 years maybe you realized there are a million and one ways to keep it interestin. try 150 vision is my official advice. He will be so smart.....

Leave my thread. It's reserved for people who actually know what they are talking about.

Originally posted by quixo
just fishing. I see a lot of the same build and a lot of shooting down anyting contrary to said build. soundslike idol worship. we could all go to hell for this.

I'm already going to hell so but at least now I know I won't be the dumbest person to end up there

being inquisitive and experimental and progressive doesnt make you dumb. UR only considered dumb if you stop trying but never leave.

Originally posted by Sellars
I'm already going to hell so but at least now I know I won't be the dumbest person to end up there

Dude... ya gotta lighten up on yerself a bit, man. S'all good some day, ya know?

Originally posted by quixo
being inquisitive and experimental and progressive doesnt make you dumb. UR only considered dumb if you stop trying but never leave.

Spewing crap and trying to pass it off as fact with no evidence isn't any better.

Ya think 92 vis is necessary with SV? I've wondered if one can get away with low to mid 80's vision when stacking SV on it.

Thoughts?

Originally posted by Otega
Ya think 92 vis is necessary with SV? I've wondered if one can get away with low to mid 80's vision when stacking SV on it.

Thoughts?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5065409&page=1#47155260
Originally posted by
Originally posted by Catch22
PM question from user aaasahi:

Do player need have SA like Head Fake, Juke, Catch Fake to activate a "Fake Motion"?
Like we can break tackle, diving tackle, jump catch without corresponding SA.
I ask this because sometimes I saw replay like this:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2332501&pbp_id=153973 CB keep move while WR stop, thus separation was made.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2333817&pbp_id=911702 see WR3 vs. CB3, CB3 keep going while WR3 make cut.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2306075&pbp_id=1660757 same as above.
So my question is:
Q1.Do player can do "Fake motion" even they don't have sp in Fake SA?
Q2.Do player got faked even there no icon pop out?
Q3.Do above play D player got faked?
Q4.If answer of Q3 is yes, do +% avoid fake gear can help in this situation?

Originally posted by Bort
There is a different kind of "fake" caused by a quick enough change in direction, that does not require an SA. The defender will tend to overrun his target from not reacting quickly enough, being carried on by momentum. "Avoid fake" does not help avoid this, but vision, agility, and superior vision skill do.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4829505&page=4#44683746
Originally posted by
1) I am frequently frustrated by having man cover DBacks who I think are very well built (agility and vision around 90 or more, Quick Cut, Super Vision, Shutdown around 10 or higher etc) completely left to wander 5 yards off the receiver when the receiver does a sudden cut in his route, leaving the receiver open to the point where he calls Im Open and catches the big gain.
Secondarily I am frustrated that my WRs do not seem to get this to happen for them very often if at all. Oh and no SAs show up in this, no Juke or Fake announced in the replay.

So the question is, could you please explain the details of the routine for determining when a receiver makes a cut thats steep enough to lose a man coverage and whether or not the man covering DB is fooled and what determines how long he is fooled meaning how long he runs before turning and how quickly he is to get back on the receiver. IE What triggers the steep turn, what checks/comparisons/rolls are made to see how tight it is, what checks are made to see if the DB can follow it and how soon and well he follows it and finally does double teaming help at all?


Originally posted by Bort
Every time a receiver reaches a cut point in his route, he will impart a reaction delay to any defender following him. How good of a cut the receiver makes makes depends on his agility and route running abilities. This effect can be mitigated some (delay time reduced) by passing vision checks at the cut point. However, it is not possible to ever have a delay of 0 without passing an exceedingly difficult roll. There will nearly always be at least 1 tick of delay. In addition, the vision checks are harder to pass and the delay effect is increased when the defender is following very closely and aggressively in man coverage. Head fakes and jukes (which can be mitigated by vision checks and superior vision skill) increase the delay time imparted.

TL;DR version is: more vision is always better. The more you have the less often you get faked, and the faster you recover.

That's very studious work TJ