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InRomoWeTrust
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Originally posted by snakes22
This is how I always thought chem worked. Example a team has...
83 Overall
88 Offense
78 Defense

All dots get a -1.7% attrib hit
Offense only gets an additional -1.2% attrib hit
Defense only gets an additional -2.2% attrib hit

offense would be at -2.9% attribs
defense at -3.9% attribs


Just noting Catch has confirmed chemistry works as a -% hit to your attributes, at a 1% for every 10 pts lost rate, from your calculated chemistry score (for offensive players it'd be the average of your overall and offense numbers, and then defense and overall for the defensive dots).
 
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Originally posted by snakes22
This is how I always thought chem worked. Example a team has...
83 Overall
88 Offense
78 Defense

All dots get a -1.7% attrib hit
Offense only gets an additional -1.2% attrib hit
Defense only gets an additional -2.2% attrib hit

offense would be at -2.9% attribs
defense at -3.9% attribs


I don't think that's right. I think it's based on an average between the total and the the offense/defense.

So in your example, the O would take a 1.45% hit (100-((88+83)/2))/10
And the D would take a 1.95% hit. (100-((78+83)/2))/10

Still this:
Originally posted by bhall43
Not gonna lie....chemistry a cold hard bitch.


 
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I though Chem was +/- 7% at the ends.
 
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Originally posted by Dr. E
No good team loses to a CPU team. Plus, if your team has a wide range of levels, then the CPU dots will have a level equal to your teams average level. Meaning higher than some of your dots.


Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
Just noting Catch has confirmed chemistry works as a -% hit to your attributes, at a 1% for every 10 pts lost rate, from your calculated chemistry score (for offensive players it'd be the average of your overall and offense numbers, and then defense and overall for the defensive dots).


So...

Your average level is 58, so that's what the CPUs are scaled off of, so even though CPU are penalized, they get to play against a lot of level 45s.

AND

Your whole team is playing at -3.5ish% to their attributes, so the only players who can win a matchup against the cpus are the highest leveled ones, and it's probably still close.
 
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Calculating your team's chemistry
The first step in calculating the penalty is to calculate the chemistry “score” for a particular side of the ball by averaging the “overall” chemistry value with the particular side of the ball the player plays on. For example, if the overall chemistry is 70 and the offense chemistry is 80, the chemistry score will be 75 for the offensive players on the roster.
The second step is to apply the ratio, 1% attribute loss for every 10 points your chemistry score is off of 100. So for the example listed above, the 75 chemistry score will result in a 2.5% attribute loss to all offensive players.
The minimum chemistry can fall to is 10, with the maximum chemistry being 100.

http://wiki.goallineblitz.com/index.php/Chemistry
 
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Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
So...

Your average level is 58, so that's what the CPUs are scaled off of, so even though CPU are penalized, they get to play against a lot of level 45s.

AND

Your whole team is playing at -3.5ish% to their attributes, so the only players who can win a matchup against the cpus are the highest leveled ones, and it's probably still close.


Winning at GLB includes putting together a smart roster, it's not all about the AI or skill of the AI builder.
 
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so yeah, this CPU Controlled team, full of CPU's:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=255


just beat this team easily:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=2722


ridiculous if you ask me, now I can remember why I took 10 seasons off from this game after all.
 
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Concrete proof of Bad Chemistry..

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1123

 
Homage
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No, this is concrete proof: http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=2867

and more importantly: Originally posted by bhall43
Not gonna lie....chemistry a cold hard bitch.
 
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Originally posted by Pwned
Concrete proof of Bad Chemistry..

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1123



Originally posted by Homage
No, this is concrete proof: http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=2867

and more importantly: Originally posted by bhall43

Not gonna lie....chemistry a cold hard bitch.


No, this is concrete proof: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2172671
 
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Look at the Miami Heat as a prime of example of chemistry vs. talent. The first couple seasons cost them with chemistry.
 
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Originally posted by TruthHammer
No, this is concrete proof: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2172671


lol tcat beat wu when he had terrible chem before too

he ran the ball 60 times
 
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Originally posted by smittdog101
Look at the Miami Heat as a prime of example of chemistry vs. talent. The first couple seasons cost them with chemistry.


they went to the fucking finals dude

if they bested 28 other teams it really doesnt have that much of an effect
 
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