Originally posted by RiverRat2
If your team sucks, you should lose to CPU's as well.
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If your team sucks, you should lose to CPU's as well.
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Gambler75
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I'll be the first to admit I'm clueless when it comes to lolCasual, I stick to regular 99.9% of the time.
That said ... looking at those particular CPU teams ... they're beating other CPU squads in the same age group in the range of 100-255 to 0. So rather than writing it off as "oh terribad teams" ... actually looking at what's going on MIGHT be worthwhile.
There IS something strange going on with NOT ALL, but a few of those CPU squads.
That said ... looking at those particular CPU teams ... they're beating other CPU squads in the same age group in the range of 100-255 to 0. So rather than writing it off as "oh terribad teams" ... actually looking at what's going on MIGHT be worthwhile.
There IS something strange going on with NOT ALL, but a few of those CPU squads.
Originally posted by Gambler75
I'll be the first to admit I'm clueless when it comes to lolCasual, I stick to regular 99.9% of the time.
That said ... looking at those particular CPU teams ... they're beating other CPU squads in the same age group in the range of 100-255 to 0. So rather than writing it off as "oh terribad teams" ... actually looking at what's going on MIGHT be worthwhile.
There IS something strange going on with NOT ALL, but a few of those CPU squads.
http://jaypgreene.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/now-panic-freak-out1.gif
I'll be the first to admit I'm clueless when it comes to lolCasual, I stick to regular 99.9% of the time.
That said ... looking at those particular CPU teams ... they're beating other CPU squads in the same age group in the range of 100-255 to 0. So rather than writing it off as "oh terribad teams" ... actually looking at what's going on MIGHT be worthwhile.
There IS something strange going on with NOT ALL, but a few of those CPU squads.
http://jaypgreene.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/now-panic-freak-out1.gif
Gambler75
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I'm not freaking out, I'm not butt hurt ... I'm really zero cares, it's lolCasual.
Just saying, instantly dismissing shit in the usual GLB "fixurbuilds" manner ... is oh yeah, what these forums are all about. Carry on then ...
Just saying, instantly dismissing shit in the usual GLB "fixurbuilds" manner ... is oh yeah, what these forums are all about. Carry on then ...
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This is from last season (two CPU teams made it to the title game, haaaa!)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4956877
So it is nothing new
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4936550
GLB had to forum banned one of the owner's (prob) after he went on a rant after losing to a CPU team in the playoffs
Think he quit and hasn't been back since then.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4956877
So it is nothing new
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4936550
GLB had to forum banned one of the owner's (prob) after he went on a rant after losing to a CPU team in the playoffs
Think he quit and hasn't been back since then.
Originally posted by Gambler75
I'll be the first to admit I'm clueless when it comes to lolCasual, I stick to regular 99.9% of the time.
That said ... looking at those particular CPU teams ... they're beating other CPU squads in the same age group in the range of 100-255 to 0. So rather than writing it off as "oh terribad teams" ... actually looking at what's going on MIGHT be worthwhile.
There IS something strange going on with NOT ALL, but a few of those CPU squads.
I have a theory about this. It is well documented that CPUs adjust their levels to the average level of other human players. This means that in a CPU vs Human game, CPU level means nothing. However, if there are no human players on either team, how would the teams adjust? I don't think they do.
Contrary to what some folks might say, CPU players do have levels. You can see them if you scout a team. Athabasca's CPUs average in the low 40s ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/scout_team.pl?team_id=1719 ) . Berlin (who they beat 255-0) averages in the teens ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/scout_team.pl?team_id=319 ). I think that is why the one CPU team destroyed the other.
I'll be the first to admit I'm clueless when it comes to lolCasual, I stick to regular 99.9% of the time.
That said ... looking at those particular CPU teams ... they're beating other CPU squads in the same age group in the range of 100-255 to 0. So rather than writing it off as "oh terribad teams" ... actually looking at what's going on MIGHT be worthwhile.
There IS something strange going on with NOT ALL, but a few of those CPU squads.
I have a theory about this. It is well documented that CPUs adjust their levels to the average level of other human players. This means that in a CPU vs Human game, CPU level means nothing. However, if there are no human players on either team, how would the teams adjust? I don't think they do.
Contrary to what some folks might say, CPU players do have levels. You can see them if you scout a team. Athabasca's CPUs average in the low 40s ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/scout_team.pl?team_id=1719 ) . Berlin (who they beat 255-0) averages in the teens ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/scout_team.pl?team_id=319 ). I think that is why the one CPU team destroyed the other.
Edited by Plankton on Sep 4, 2012 15:59:02
dahman32
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Originally posted by Plankton
I have a theory about this. It is well documented that CPUs adjust their levels to the average level of other human players. This means that in a CPU vs Human game, CPU level means nothing. However, if there are no human players on either team, how would the teams adjust? I don't think they do.
Contrary to what some folks might say, CPU players do have levels. You can see them if you scout a team. Athabasca's CPUs average in the low 40s ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/scout_team.pl?team_id=1719 ) . Berlin (who they beat 255-0) averages in the teens ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/scout_team.pl?team_id=319 ). I think that is why the one CPU team destroyed the other.
I got you, level 42 CPU dots should be able to beat level 62-66 human dots.... sounds accurate to me
I have a theory about this. It is well documented that CPUs adjust their levels to the average level of other human players. This means that in a CPU vs Human game, CPU level means nothing. However, if there are no human players on either team, how would the teams adjust? I don't think they do.
Contrary to what some folks might say, CPU players do have levels. You can see them if you scout a team. Athabasca's CPUs average in the low 40s ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/scout_team.pl?team_id=1719 ) . Berlin (who they beat 255-0) averages in the teens ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/scout_team.pl?team_id=319 ). I think that is why the one CPU team destroyed the other.
I got you, level 42 CPU dots should be able to beat level 62-66 human dots.... sounds accurate to me
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Originally posted by CyberNinja
I love the fact that a cpu team is no longer a easy win, keep them how they are.
This at the very least. They should have left them where they were before all the crying started the last time about losing to them. As long as they are part of the game you should have to work to beat them IMO.
Originally posted by RiverRat2
If your team sucks, you should lose to CPU's as well.
And this. Don't take them for granted.
I love the fact that a cpu team is no longer a easy win, keep them how they are.
This at the very least. They should have left them where they were before all the crying started the last time about losing to them. As long as they are part of the game you should have to work to beat them IMO.
Originally posted by RiverRat2
If your team sucks, you should lose to CPU's as well.
And this. Don't take them for granted.
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Originally posted by Plankton
I had a theory about this in the past. It is well documented that CPUs adjust their levels to the average level of other human players. This means that in a CPU vs Human game, CPU level means nothing. However, if there are no human players on either team, how would the teams adjust? I don't think they do.
Contrary to what some folks might say, CPU players do have levels. You can see them if you scout a team. Athabasca's CPUs average in the low 40s ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/scout_team.pl?team_id=1719 ) . Berlin (who they beat 255-0) averages in the teens ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/scout_team.pl?team_id=319 ). I think that is why the one CPU team destroyed the other.
This is correct. CPU players, based on my experience this season, adjust @ game time and "readjust" during the next game. I had this happen to my team when my roster dropped off and I reset. Someone sent a scrim over, my team restocked with OPL cpu dots, then the team was demoted to rookie. All of my current CPU dots required salaries that were higher than my entire bank balance. I had to cut and resign non-leveled cpu dots who could adjust during the first game.
Also: http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=2917
It's picked up a few players here and there but pretty dominant for a CPU owned CPU team. Those who know or care spank the shit out of it but the last 2 games.....
I had a theory about this in the past. It is well documented that CPUs adjust their levels to the average level of other human players. This means that in a CPU vs Human game, CPU level means nothing. However, if there are no human players on either team, how would the teams adjust? I don't think they do.
Contrary to what some folks might say, CPU players do have levels. You can see them if you scout a team. Athabasca's CPUs average in the low 40s ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/scout_team.pl?team_id=1719 ) . Berlin (who they beat 255-0) averages in the teens ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/scout_team.pl?team_id=319 ). I think that is why the one CPU team destroyed the other.
This is correct. CPU players, based on my experience this season, adjust @ game time and "readjust" during the next game. I had this happen to my team when my roster dropped off and I reset. Someone sent a scrim over, my team restocked with OPL cpu dots, then the team was demoted to rookie. All of my current CPU dots required salaries that were higher than my entire bank balance. I had to cut and resign non-leveled cpu dots who could adjust during the first game.
Also: http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=2917
It's picked up a few players here and there but pretty dominant for a CPU owned CPU team. Those who know or care spank the shit out of it but the last 2 games.....
Originally posted by dahman32
I got you, level 42 CPU dots should be able to beat level 62-66 human dots.... sounds accurate to me
Against the 62-66 humans, they are level 64 CPUs. However, they are based on builds that Catch decided were average. My guess is his idea of average > than what the average non-WL vet would consider average. Thus a CPU player > a poorly built human player and might even be > than what the average non-WL vet would build.
TBH, the solution to this is the same now as it was 8 seasons ago when I took a CPU only team to Regional Pro Finals. CPU players should not adjust their level based on the opponent's level....they should adjust to the SP value of their opponent. This would allow them to still be worse than crappy teams and be more competitive against very well built teams. However, alot of people think this is not an issue, and I personally don't give a shit, since I have never had a team that I cared about lose to a CPU team.
I got you, level 42 CPU dots should be able to beat level 62-66 human dots.... sounds accurate to me
Against the 62-66 humans, they are level 64 CPUs. However, they are based on builds that Catch decided were average. My guess is his idea of average > than what the average non-WL vet would consider average. Thus a CPU player > a poorly built human player and might even be > than what the average non-WL vet would build.
TBH, the solution to this is the same now as it was 8 seasons ago when I took a CPU only team to Regional Pro Finals. CPU players should not adjust their level based on the opponent's level....they should adjust to the SP value of their opponent. This would allow them to still be worse than crappy teams and be more competitive against very well built teams. However, alot of people think this is not an issue, and I personally don't give a shit, since I have never had a team that I cared about lose to a CPU team.
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CPU teams or not......I still tag certain players because I don't want to take a chance and lose to CPU. Treating it like a real game and we have never lost to a CPU team.
HOODjelly
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On the other side of things, I can't tag for shit because it seems that the CPU AI uses everyone for everything. I do have a solid base AI to load though so it works out in the end.
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2126144
No point in rolling new dots, if you can just get a CPU team and win.
No point in rolling new dots, if you can just get a CPU team and win.
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Originally posted by LemKai
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2126144
No point in rolling new dots, if you can just get a CPU team and win.
Not to mention this elite CPU QB
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1361119
QBR = 110.8 (70% comp. 16 TD, 1 int, 1,968 yards)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2126144
No point in rolling new dots, if you can just get a CPU team and win.
Not to mention this elite CPU QB
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1361119
QBR = 110.8 (70% comp. 16 TD, 1 int, 1,968 yards)
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