Warrior General Games

so i see several options here to grow your player:
1. Enhanced Bonus training - is there a strategy here... are you taking your main attributes to 5 stars?
2. Perm bonus - buying 1 sp for 15bt
3. special abilities - any upgrades worth a damn here?

My main question is enhanced bonus training vs buying SPs... which one is more effective over the life of the player?

1: 3 stars is most likely the best choice. 4 doesn't pay off, and 5 rarely does.
2: this is only useful so you can cap before you boost on day 0, and in veeeeeery rare situations thereafter.
3: I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean.

Also, how come you do not mention unlocking multi-training?

By 3 he means spending the 35 SP to add a second Additional SA to the third row.

Multi training is a must do, and that sucks up so many BTs by generating half as many as light training that its tough to find BTs to toss around on anything other than Enhanced training of three attributes and then your four AEQ.

I have been experimenting with a couple of builds by spending 15 to get a last SP to cap a build before boosting. But not sure it was wise.

I have not yet bought a second SA. Rarely have enough points for the SAs I already want to fill up. I suppose it might be worth it for some special teams builds where the players SAs are not helpful to special teams play. But I dont build those dots.

As for enhancements, I do five for the first one for sure unless maybe its a linebacker or other dot that has diverse needs. Second one maybe. Third one I have done five but probably wasn't the best move. Lately going with four on that if not three. But it depends on the position.

Sure that wasnt helpful, especially since I suck at the GLB. But there it is.

#1 attribute should only get 2 training enhancements (1 b-4 training when creating player) then train on intense till 36 BT's and unlock multi then set on auto train for 6 BT's to remind yourself to get enhancements for #2 thru #4 with goal for 3 enhancements for each

Originally posted by oraphus
so i see several options here to grow your player:
1. Enhanced Bonus training - is there a strategy here... are you taking your main attributes to 5 stars?
2. Perm bonus - buying 1 sp for 15bt
3. special abilities - any upgrades worth a damn here?

My main question is enhanced bonus training vs buying SPs... which one is more effective over the life of the player?


1 - enhance your main attributes 3 times and the rest you plan to train twice - also for setting up multi-training

2 - perm bonus only at the very end of your build once all your AE is complete

3 - some positions yes - others no - kick returners and linebackers are 2 where I will buy more SA's - offensive FB's too

You can experiment with tweaks to this but most of what's been said I agree with (save some small differences) but there's also stuff left out.
#1, unlock multi-training. A given by almost ALL dot builders.
#2, put some into Enhanced training. (Some stop at 3... some at 4... I do 5 in my primary, 4 in my secondary, and 3 in my other 'locked skill' (locked skill are those you purchase slots in multi-training with as they become "locked" into your training regimen).
#3, save the rest of your BT's for AEQ purchases and AEQ upgrades.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
You can experiment with tweaks to this but most of what's been said I agree with (save some small differences) but there's also stuff left out.
#1, unlock multi-training. A given by almost ALL dot builders.
#2, put some into Enhanced training. (Some stop at 3... some at 4... I do 5 in my primary, 4 in my secondary, and 3 in my other 'locked skill' (locked skill are those you purchase slots in multi-training with as they become "locked" into your training regimen).
#3, save the rest of your BT's for AEQ purchases and AEQ upgrades.

You should really stay away from 4 stars enhanced.

Originally posted by Hagalaz
You should really stay away from 4 stars enhanced.

I've heard that but can't wrap my head around it. It only costs a few BT's and I've never had a lack of BT's to do my AEQ up right (last 2 dots I had reach plateau had over 900 BT's each... plenty for AEQ... and both of those dots were 5-stared in all 3 fields). I will say I >could've< put a few more BT's into 1 piece of AEQ... but felt the training gains I got over the life of the dot offset the small loss of one more little +1 on speed I could've bought. Not saying you're wrong... just saying I'm not able to see benefit/lack thereof for going with 3 stars only. Could be a wash and just a builder's taste. :shrug:

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Originally posted by Hagalaz

You should really stay away from 4 stars enhanced.

I've heard that but can't wrap my head around it. It only costs a few BT's and I've never had a lack of BT's to do my AEQ up right (last 2 dots I had reach plateau had over 900 BT's each... plenty for AEQ... and both of those dots were 5-stared in all 3 fields). I will say I >could've< put a few more BT's into 1 piece of AEQ... but felt the training gains I got over the life of the dot offset the small loss of one more little +1 on speed I could've bought. Not saying you're wrong... just saying I'm not able to see benefit/lack thereof for going with 3 stars only. Could be a wash and just a builder's taste. :shrug:

4 AE isn't a bad thing

and you need to compare your end game build to other 3 AE players to see how effective what you are doing is

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
I've heard that but can't wrap my head around it. It only costs a few BT's and I've never had a lack of BT's to do my AEQ up right (last 2 dots I had reach plateau had over 900 BT's each... plenty for AEQ... and both of those dots were 5-stared in all 3 fields). I will say I >could've< put a few more BT's into 1 piece of AEQ... but felt the training gains I got over the life of the dot offset the small loss of one more little +1 on speed I could've bought. Not saying you're wrong... just saying I'm not able to see benefit/lack thereof for going with 3 stars only. Could be a wash and just a builder's taste. :shrug:

Are you saying this http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2249012 and this http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2264403 ?
Man, your dot doesn't look like they have full benefit from 4AEQ.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
I've heard that but can't wrap my head around it. It only costs a few BT's and I've never had a lack of BT's to do my AEQ up right (last 2 dots I had reach plateau had over 900 BT's each... plenty for AEQ... and both of those dots were 5-stared in all 3 fields). I will say I >could've< put a few more BT's into 1 piece of AEQ... but felt the training gains I got over the life of the dot offset the small loss of one more little +1 on speed I could've bought. Not saying you're wrong... just saying I'm not able to see benefit/lack thereof for going with 3 stars only. Could be a wash and just a builder's taste. :shrug:

You know, sometimes it is extremely hard to try and help people. This is one such case. It's not about lack of BTs. It's because for a very large part of your primary attribute's training period, it will give you the exact same training returns as 3 stars, so you are in fact paying BTs for... NOTHING...

Originally posted by Hagalaz
You know, sometimes it is extremely hard to try and help people. This is one such case. It's not about lack of BTs. It's because for a very large part of your primary attribute's training period, it will give you the exact same training returns as 3 stars, so you are in fact paying BTs for... NOTHING...

He can't full upgrade his 4 AEQ, and he think he have enough BT.

But upgrading the AEQ or not is not related to why people don't choose to 4-star. It is perfectly doable to get 4-aeq and 4 stars, it's just not a good idea!

Originally posted by Hagalaz
But upgrading the AEQ or not is not related to why people don't choose to 4-star. It is perfectly doable to get 4-aeq and 4 stars, it's just not a good idea!

Yes, you are right, I just want to say he can't even get enough BT and he think he can do 5-star upgrade and thought it's good.
Actually his dot SP value isn't that high....

Those are some pretty shocking dots Theo Wizzago, sell at least one aeq to get one more upgraded fully, a normal +10 will beat those un-upgraded pieces by far. I guess you multi-train the dots from day 0, but they are still extremely low on SP value and the aeq situation just makes them horrible.

Anyway, I would only consider 5 stars on an OL with 3 aeq, pretty much in every other case you should stick with 3.