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dbrewington
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1772788&pbp_id=401750

Was 100% sure this guy was gonna pick it up and take it to the house...

RAGE WOULD HAVE ENSUED..
 
Rage Kinard
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Originally posted by maddoggy71
these are not failed vision checks... the offense is recovering all of these fumbles in these examples... and in many of them the D players are right there.


I agree with this. No way it is just failed vision checks, especially when you consider what most HBs vision is compared to most defensive players and offensive linemen. HBs typically have some of the lowest vision of any player on the field, yet the HB is always the one passing the vision check.

something stinks in Denmark
 
alindyl
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Originally posted by dbrewington
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1772788&pbp_id=401750

Was 100% sure this guy was gonna pick it up and take it to the house...

RAGE WOULD HAVE ENSUED..


added that one as well.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
I agree with this. No way it is just failed vision checks, especially when you consider what most HBs vision is compared to most defensive players and offensive linemen. HBs typically have some of the lowest vision of any player on the field, yet the HB is always the one passing the vision check.

something stinks in Denmark


Honestly, i agree that it doesn't appear to be a vision issue but since i can't see what is going on behind the scenes i have to take their word that it is what is occurring. So if it is, there seems to be an adjustment needed so 21 other players on the field have a chance to pass the vision check in these situations.

I appreciate the additional links to these fumbles, the more examples we can give hopefully the better it can be reviewed for changes. I'll keep adding them to the OP as i see them posted.
 
Chiefan
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Originally posted by alindyl
I appreciate the additional links to these fumbles


and +1

 
alindyl
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Tossed in the leagues where the replays were played (or at least where the teams were at the time, most of the replays are this season though)
 
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3 day, page 2 bump.
 
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merenoise
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+1
 
CDZYO
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I think the implication of what the OP is suggesting is being lost with the list of links, because you have to click to see what's happening, and that's just too much work. So, in the interest of spurring support, I shall attempt to describe just one of the links, as follows:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1769422&pbp_id=10711336

This is a FB screen weak out of the goalline formation. The FB makes the catch, but is then engaged by a free safety in the backfield. The FS forces the FB to fumble the ball, and the ball proceeds to bounce downfield, probably nine yards... ten if you want to be generous with the spot. At this point, all 22 dots appear to converge at the point of the fumble, away from where the ball has landed. After a few ticks, two CBs break away from the schmozz and head toward the fumbled ball. Upon reaching the ball, one asks the other if he has a lighter. The other confirms that he has a lighter, at which point the two share a smoke break, lasting about twenty ticks or so. Meanwhile, the HB, who had been performing his best soccer dive yet that game, realized that the schmozz had turned into a bizarre Roman-Greco orgy and he had been left with neither partner nor entry point. The HB then notices the smoke signals coming from the two CBs and immediately makes a beeline toward them, perhaps in pursuit of companionship. Upon reaching the CBs, he sees the football on the ground and picks it up as a memento of what must be the oddest circumstance of his professional life, something he can show the grandkids as he eases into retirement. It is at this point that the CBs use the HB as Chinese fingercuffs.

Anyway, while I'm sure this is Working As Intended, it doesn't make for good football outside of a hack screenwriter's fevered imagination. So, +1 to the OP.
 
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Originally posted by Myd
+1 after watching the replays.


 
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Originally posted by merenoise
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reedric
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Originally posted by Brett Snyder
Originally posted by merenoise

+1




 
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+1
 
alindyl
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As always if anyone see's more replays where the fumbled ball leaves the pile and no one picks it up until the initial fumbler, just toss up a link here and i'll include it in the OP.
 
MileHighShoes
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+1

I was all for more realistic fumbles... but this wasn't the kind of change I was looking for. The ball movement still lacks real physics, as the only time it moves is wen a dot attempts a fumble recovery. The ball doesn't bounce or roll at all, and if The fumble recovery is whiffed badly enough apparently nobody can tell where it goes and they just burn the clock dicking around in a massive pile while the ball lays 5 yards away.
 
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