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Originally posted by juiceweezl
Game planning can't overcome a fully boosted team. The dots are just too different. Heck, look at our SIM game today (they've already run). We got drilled by a team that has already dumped SP. It wasn't even close. Those 15 SP we're holding versus the 15 they dumped are the level difference. Sure, you can do some things to keep it close, but not you just won't win if the other coaches put minimal effort into it.

We can over come some boosted dots, but not a full team. The same is true for your team. You run a ball control, conservative offense. That will help keep things close and keep you in the game, but in the end the higher levels will end up making enough plays. That's what happened in the League Championship last season to you. BNI went light with a super conservative gameplan relying on their levels. If they had really gameplanned and attacked you to make use of that, it probably would've been another 3 scores or so. It's not a knock on you or any other coach -- it's just facts. I gambled against them in the conference championship. I tried to take some big risks early and hope we could put some points up and then hold on. It obviously didn't work, but I didn't feel we'd be able to beat them playing straight up.

It should be a good battle all the way in. We build dots that mature at the end of the season, so it hurts us against some opponents until the last 1/3 of the season. There are a lot of ball control offenses in Silver too. That keeps the games close enough for one or two plays to decide it. I just hope the SIM improves this season.


You make some very good points, and boosting really is a huge difference. I agree that if you don't boost at all it's going to be practically impossible to keep up with a fully boosted team. In the championship last year DA was probably about 1/2 to 2/3 boosted so that's what helped make it close as well. I almost changed up the gameplan quite a bit for BNI but found a couple holes in their run D and decided to just hope that would be enough to sneak by them (obviously didn't work lol). I agree though too with BNI not really gameplanning. If they'd put more effort into it they could've beaten us by a lot more.

I do like this league for the competition though, there are quite a few good teams in both conferences that actually make for some challenging games during the regular season, unlike most silver leagues these days. I figure we'll have 5 or so we have to gameplan for, and although its nothing compared to gold, scrims for tourneys and all helps make it fun too. The competition in this league is really good which is what i think has helped keep me going, that and the fact that i want a damn gold trophy haha.

I'm also hoping some of those passing changes actually work as intended, which would do a lot towards balancing the sim. Getting rid of pump fake on the go routes will be huge and stop teams from just throwing the ball up every play (not that i remember that being a problem in this league), not sure how big of a change the success of passing we'll see on short/medium/long routes, but with the crappy peewee attys that could end up putting a big hurt on the passing game and pushing peewee back to running every play. I actually liked the fact this year that you saw a variety of different styles and people could play more of a style that they wanted to play than what the sim forced them into. I think the passing changes are good to cut down on PF, but hope they didn't go too far towards making passing useless again
Edited by junglejuice on Nov 12, 2010 16:33:32
 
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You're 100% correct. This league is fun -- it has enough challenging games but isn't the beating that Gold is on a daily basis. I enjoyed last season more than any since the first DSBM season in Gold when we played for the Gold trophy. Out of 16 regular season games, I'd like for 3-4 of them to be serious game plan games, 3-4 be medium game planning, 2-3 to be adjust for 1 quarter only, and the rest to be cruise control. Then get ready for playoffs. We have that here.

As for the SIM, I'm hoping that too. We passed more than anyone in the league last season (and maybe all of Silver), but we didn't do the "feed pump fake and chuck it deep" method. We actually built to our plans and ran routes accordingly. It was a highly effective team that really had some good builds. We plan on throwing again this season, but probably not as much (only 2 QB's this time). I agree with you though -- I hope it doesn't nerf passing all together.
 
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Oh, and LOL to any team that has dumped all SP for all players by now.
 
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After Pre-Season Game 1...

Rnk ..... Off ..... Def .... SoS ........... W-L-T... Team
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-1-2.. Baytown Bulldogs
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0-3.. M.U.S.C.L.E .
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0-3.. EMPIRE ™
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0-3.. Corleone Hitmen
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1-3.. ***Official Peewee Footballguys***
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0-3.. Whispering Eyes
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0-3.. Rollin 20'z Hood
8.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0-3.. San Juan Scorpions
8.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0-3.. 14th street Buc"s
8.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1-3.. Sandy Desert Reptiles
8.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0-3.. Ogopogo Lake Monsters
8.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.500 ........ 0-1-3.. Deep South Baby Throwers
8.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0-3.. Invicta All-Stars PW
8.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1-3.. PeeWee Process
8.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1-3.. Dublin Shamrocks
16 ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0-3.. Mayfield Mud Doggs
17 ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1-3.. San Dimas Wyld Stallyns
18 ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1-3.. Adelaide Battalion
19 ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0-3.. SouthWest Alief Steelers
19 ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0-3.. Brunswick Blue Devils
19 ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0-3.. Devil's Advocates
22 ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1-3.. Las Vegas Outlaws
23 ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1-3.. La Louviere Wolves
24 ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1-3.. New York FBU
24 ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1-3.. Outlaws MC
26 ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1-3.. BP Little Oil Spills
26 ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0-3.. Edinburgh Eagles
26 ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1-3.. Dublin Dragons
26 ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1-3.. HIT SQUAD
30 ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1-3.. Denver Dashers
30 ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1-3.. This Team Has a lot of Balls
32 ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0-3.. Copenhagen Corsairs
 
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Originally posted by juiceweezl
Oh, and LOL to any team that has dumped all SP for all players by now.


I don't see anything wrong with that strategy if you aren't training your primary skill.
 
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Originally posted by s.i.m.
I don't see anything wrong with that strategy if you aren't training your primary skill.


yeah, if you're done with your primary there's no reason not to. I've dumped for quite a few of my players where it isn't worth training past a certain point. just depends on what your plan for your player is
 
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Originally posted by junglejuice
yeah, if you're done with your primary there's no reason not to. I've dumped for quite a few of my players where it isn't worth training past a certain point. just depends on what your plan for your player is


You shouldn't be done with your primary yet, at least not if you plan to 2nd cap the attribute which you should be doing in most cases. It will cost you SP in the end.
 
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better value in BTs rather than training once you get it to 31 imo. thats just from my math calcs though so who knows
 
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Originally posted by junglejuice
better value in BTs rather than training once you get it to 31 imo. thats just from my math calcs though so who knows


Multi-training gives you the BT's and the high yields. I fooled around with a few different methods last season with some dots. That's how I got some dots to like 315+ SP for league championships.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2209607 (318)

TBH, I'm not sure if it's the only way to get there or not. Training the way I do instead of intense brings your dot around a bit slower, but it seems to be much better at the end. You definitely can go with a lot of intense trains early to get the primary up higher and then dump SP. If you did that, you could be at the 30-31 mark which is the time to dump as you pointed out. I've been taking most of my dots to 28 or 29 at 90%+ before dumping. That way they hit the cap with the level 2 gain. I used the extended season and multi train to get to that point so I'm accumulating the extra BT's to convert to SP as well. It's just one giant math problem. LOL
 
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I usually train to 32, buy 2 SPs at that time and cap it at 49 first.

 
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yeah, i agree on the multi-train. i used intense to get my primary up to 31, then did one or two more trains if neccessary on the secondary to get up to 30 BTs to unlock all the multi-training. training will be on coast the rest of the season and just converting all those BTs into SPs.

hope all you newbies are taking notes out there

 
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Originally posted by junglejuice
yeah, i agree on the multi-train. i used intense to get my primary up to 31, then did one or two more trains if neccessary on the secondary to get up to 30 BTs to unlock all the multi-training. training will be on coast the rest of the season and just converting all those BTs into SPs.

hope all you newbies are taking notes out there



Got my steno pad and pencil.....
 
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Originally posted by RUN HARD


Got my steno pad and pencil.....


Holy crap Adam Avalanche is invading Silver 3!!!
I had the SS on West Scranton those years and Avalanche was by far the most dominant player in the game.
Anyway good luck this season Run Hard (except against the hitmen)

Edited by nsergi2 on Nov 16, 2010 09:18:07
Edited by nsergi2 on Nov 16, 2010 09:17:35
 
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After Game 1

Rnk ..... Off ..... Def .... SoS ........... W-L-T... Team
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0...... EMPIRE ™
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0...... Corleone Hitmen
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0...... 14th street Buc"s
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0...... Devil's Advocates
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0...... Brunswick Blue Devils
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0...... San Juan Scorpions
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0...... FLORIDA THUNDER
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0...... Baytown Bulldogs
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0...... M.U.S.C.L.E .
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0...... Mayfield Mud Doggs
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0...... Sandy Desert Reptiles
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1...... Dublin Dragons
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1...... Copenhagen Corsairs
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1...... Denver Dashers
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1...... Edinburgh Eagles
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1...... SouthWest Alief Steelers
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0...... Deep South Baby Throwers
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0...... Ogopogo Lake Monsters
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0...... Rollin 20'z Hood
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0...... PeeWee Process
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 0.000 ........ 1-0...... THE Legion of Hades LOHADES
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1...... Invicta All-Stars PW
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1...... ***Official Peewee Footballguys***
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1...... San Dimas Wyld Stallyns
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1...... La Louviere Wolves
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1...... Whispering Eyes
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1...... Dublin Shamrocks
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1...... New York FBU
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1...... The ShortBus Kids
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1...... HIT SQUAD
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1...... Outlaws MC
1.. ........ 1 ........ 1 ........ 1.000 ........ 0-1...... Las Vegas Outlaws


NEXT WEEK'S MATCHUPS
Exp Score  Matchup
255 -   24    Brunswick Blue Devils def. EMPIRE ™
  33 -   16    Corleone Hitmen def. FLORIDA THUNDER
  70 -   22    14th street Buc"s def. Sandy Desert Reptiles
  50 -   16    Devil's Advocates def. M.U.S.C.L.E .
  74 -     8    San Juan Scorpions def. Copenhagen Corsairs
255 -   64    Edinburgh Eagles def. Baytown Bulldogs
  73 -   17    Mayfield Mud Doggs def. Denver Dashers
  33 -   15    Dublin Dragons def. SouthWest Alief Steelers
255 -   64    Invicta All-Stars PW def. Deep South Baby Throwers
  33 -   15    Ogopogo Lake Monsters def. PeeWee Process
  26 -   21    THE Legion of Hades LOHADES def. Rollin 20'z Hood
  38 -   37    La Louviere Wolves def. ***Official Peewee Footballguys***
  28 -   17    San Dimas Wyld Stallyns def. Las Vegas Outlaws
  56 -   14    Whispering Eyes def. Dublin Shamrocks
255 -   34    The ShortBus Kids def. New York FBU
  33 -   25    HIT SQUAD def. Outlaws MC
 
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Originally posted by SteveBish194

NEXT WEEK'S MATCHUPS
Exp Score  Matchup
255 -   24    Brunswick Blue Devils def. EMPIRE ™
  33 -   16    Corleone Hitmen def. FLORIDA THUNDER
  70 -   22    14th street Buc"s def. Sandy Desert Reptiles
  50 -   16    Devil's Advocates def. M.U.S.C.L.E .
  74 -     8    San Juan Scorpions def. Copenhagen Corsairs
255 -   64    Edinburgh Eagles def. Baytown Bulldogs
  73 -   17    Mayfield Mud Doggs def. Denver Dashers
  33 -   15    Dublin Dragons def. SouthWest Alief Steelers
255 -   64    Invicta All-Stars PW def. Deep South Baby Throwers
  33 -   15    Ogopogo Lake Monsters def. PeeWee Process
  26 -   21    THE Legion of Hades LOHADES def. Rollin 20'z Hood
  38 -   37    La Louviere Wolves def. ***Official Peewee Footballguys***
  28 -   17    San Dimas Wyld Stallyns def. Las Vegas Outlaws
  56 -   14    Whispering Eyes def. Dublin Shamrocks
255 -   34    The ShortBus Kids def. New York FBU
  33 -   25    HIT SQUAD def. Outlaws MC


Someone hit the crack-rock awfully hard this morning... ^^;

 
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