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Originally posted by Chopmankins
Originally posted by Mike Hammer Jarlsson

'Locked leagues', with some movement possible BUT regulated, would resolve those issues and increase the amount of 'community' being fostered, including all the forum banter hehe


Well, the Breeze moved from level 14 to 22 last season. The new "competitive" league has nearly all of the playoff teams from the old league the Breeze were in last season. Essentially, the new league is combination of playoff teams from 4-5 different leagues.


I know what you're saying, and it's pretty cool that happened.

I've seen very different situations happen more frequently, where you move up (I've never stayed put in a league yet?) usually you get 6-10 CPU teams and maybe 1 or 2 teams you have come across during previous seasons.

I would like to see leagues to be established, where you compete against mostly the same teams season in and out, UNLESS you have a very clear advantage or disadvantage, then you could be mioved up, down or even sideways to a similar level league with a vacancy.

Then a salary cap would make it more level for all, but not necessarily fairer...
 
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Originally posted by Chopmankins
The owners of the casual teams are the problem here; they pay to own their teams but have extremely difficult times recruiting, which causes them to walk from the game. When someone does that, a paying customer just left.


I don't think ownership causes someone to walk away from the game, it just causes instability. In which if you had stability playing at the casual level I don't think it would be that hard to recruit players. Personally if you want players with the current system in place lack of good builds etc you basically have to recruit a season ahead of time, because waiting til the off season is disastrous for any type of team without a network of players
 
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Originally posted by bwoods90
I don't think ownership causes someone to walk away from the game,


See quote posted earlier. Casual owner walking.

Originally posted by Mike Hammer Jarlsson

I've seen very different situations happen more frequently, where you move up (I've never stayed put in a league yet?) usually you get 6-10 CPU teams and maybe 1 or 2 teams you have come across during previous seasons.


My "competitive league" has about ten teams from the league I was in last year.

Originally posted by Mike Hammer Jarlsson

I would like to see leagues to be established, where you compete against mostly the same teams season in and out, UNLESS you have a very clear advantage or disadvantage, then you could be mioved up, down or even sideways to a similar level league with a vacancy.


Still impossible to be perfected. Teams always gut and new would need to be added.
 
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Originally posted by Chopmankins
Originally posted by Sik Wit It


-There is a salary cap. You will still be able to sign players if you're over the cap, but you will have to pay the equivalent of their salary in taxes as well. This tax will be distributed amongst the league.
-Player salary ranges will be based on effective level - the higher effective level or SP value a player has, the more money they'll be expecting


Will there be a "salary floor" based on effective level or will the incentive to give higher salaries solely be "reserve moral?"


The reserve morale is based on what a player expects his salary to be. Players with higher effective level/SP value will automatically expect more, so in this sense, you will have to pay them more. If you decide to give an average player the same salary as an elite player, he will have higher reserve morale because his expectations were lower.
 
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Originally posted by Sik Wit It
The reserve morale is based on what a player expects his salary to be. Players with higher effective level/SP value will automatically expect more, so in this sense, you will have to pay them more. If you decide to give an average player the same salary as an elite player, he will have higher reserve morale because his expectations were lower.


So the answer is no?

Basically, I'll have to decide when I sign my 25 players to my team whether to give them good salaries and increase their morale or pay them crap and be able to afford them?
 
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Originally posted by Chopmankins
Originally posted by Sik Wit It

The reserve morale is based on what a player expects his salary to be. Players with higher effective level/SP value will automatically expect more, so in this sense, you will have to pay them more. If you decide to give an average player the same salary as an elite player, he will have higher reserve morale because his expectations were lower.


So the answer is no?

Basically, I'll have to decide when I sign my 25 players to my team whether to give them good salaries and increase their morale or pay them crap and be able to afford them?


I'm not sure if there's a floor.

Also you can make up for a lower salary by buying team items like lockeroom, cheerleaders, and whatnot.
 
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Originally posted by Sik Wit It
Also you can make up for a lower salary by buying team items like lockeroom, cheerleaders, and whatnot.


The system, therefore, is designed to punish more when you buy a greater number of better players than would be made up by having the better players and not simply average ones?
 
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Idea,
if the issue of a 'salary' cap exists, why not just find new sources of funds. Heck, allow for higher ticket sales, allow for media revenue in lower leagues, or heck why not add more seats in a stadium.

Are you guys Democrats or something? Because you are starting to sound like Obama! Take my money and give it to someone that can't afford healthcare (or in most cases chooses not to afford healthcare).

Take the money I've saved with my team, the money I've worked for the last 2 years build up and give it to some other team that has no clue about money management.

Wow, I never realized the similarities until it just hit me. Taxed by Obama to death in real life, taxed by Catch in GLB. Next thing you are going to say is God doesn't exist.
 
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Originally posted by ptompkins
Next thing you are going to say is God doesn't exist.


He doesn't.
 
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oh, and since this game still has no two point conversions or punts after a safety I finally figured out how to do an on sides kick
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1138362&pbp_id=7740042
 
Sik Wit It
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Originally posted by ptompkins
Idea,
if the issue of a 'salary' cap exists, why not just find new sources of funds. Heck, allow for higher ticket sales, allow for media revenue in lower leagues, or heck why not add more seats in a stadium.

Are you guys Democrats or something? Because you are starting to sound like Obama! Take my money and give it to someone that can't afford healthcare (or in most cases chooses not to afford healthcare).

Take the money I've saved with my team, the money I've worked for the last 2 years build up and give it to some other team that has no clue about money management.

Wow, I never realized the similarities until it just hit me. Taxed by Obama to death in real life, taxed by Catch in GLB. Next thing you are going to say is God doesn't exist.


The NBA and MLB have been doing a similar thing for years.
 
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Originally posted by Sik Wit It
The NBA and MLB have been doing a similar thing for years.


This if virtual, there is no real money. damn, if a teams short money run a SQL script that gives everyone that has less than $10M in the bank $10M. Don't knock us hard long time savers. Not our fault we have ticket sales.

Or better yet, start people off with more money when they first buy a team. I mean in real life it's some guy with a few billion $$$$ to swing around when buying a franchise.
Edited by ptompkins on Apr 17, 2010 20:17:56
 
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Originally posted by Novus
YOU'RE ADDING TOO MUCH.

I REPEAT: YOU'RE ADDING TOO MUCH.


This is supposed to be a game, not a second job.


I stress this again
 
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Originally posted by Sik Wit It
I'm not sure if there's a floor.

Also you can make up for a lower salary by buying team items like lockeroom, cheerleaders, and whatnot.



You guys that keep defending this crap should be ashamed of yourselves.

Not a soul who signed up in season 1 or 2 did so because they were looking for an outlet to build lockerooms.
 
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Originally posted by Sik Wit It

I'm not sure if there's a floor.

Also you can make up for a lower salary by buying team items like lockeroom, cheerleaders, and whatnot.



You guys that keep defending this crap should be ashamed of yourselves.

Not a soul who signed up in season 1 or 2 did so because they were looking for an outlet to build lockerooms.


You know, it may be news to you, but not everyone has the same opinions as you.

I signed up season 1, because of football too, but I would enjoy the new financial changes.

If you don't like it, you don't have to deal with them. Bort is making it optional pretty much.
 
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