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It's the Strong I Slam bug. Enjoy a bullshit trophy, Dark Knights, as opposed to playing the game.
 
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Originally posted by staxringold
It's the Strong I Slam bug. Enjoy a bullshit trophy, Dark Knights, as opposed to playing the game.


Hey now, you don't see anyone from the Eastern conference being poor sports. We just got our asses handed to us and I'm not whining. It would only be bullshit if you were not able to do the same thing. If it works so well, do it yourself...bug or no bug. Don't get pissed because a team used a play that works.
 
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Congrats Dark Knights.

I will stay out of the debate as to weather that is a good strategy or exploiting a bug. That battle has been raging for a while and it should be a non issue next season anyway.

We wanted to keep a mix of plays and the Dark Knights shut our passing game down. We had to have a passing game equal to our run game to compete with a clock eating 100% run gameplan. We did not.

I look forward to seeing who wins the championship.
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I'll talk about it. We can run like that we choose not to. We even talked about it several times heading into the playoffs because we knew someone would do it. But we decided to take the high road thaat was our game plan we have to live with it. But hey they did what they had to do.

Hopefully what there fixing in the offseason will fix the run game. Good luck in the championship Dark Knights and congrats. I hope use guys win and represent our conference with a win fella's. Looking foward to next season is it here yet-LOL.
 
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Originally posted by Elusive Yeti
Originally posted by staxringold

It's the Strong I Slam bug. Enjoy a bullshit trophy, Dark Knights, as opposed to playing the game.


Hey now, you don't see anyone from the Eastern conference being poor sports. We just got our asses handed to us and I'm not whining. It would only be bullshit if you were not able to do the same thing. If it works so well, do it yourself...bug or no bug. Don't get pissed because a team used a play that works.


No thanks, I'll complain all I want. This is a game. For fun. Exploiting a bug like this is like disabling someone else's paintball gun before you start a round. You're not playing anymore. Congratulations, you set run Strong I Slam to 95-99% of your plays and let loose. How is that fun? How is that competition?

And it's patently obvious that the Dark Knights agree as they DIDN'T RUN THIS GAMEPLAN IN ANY OTHER GAME THIS SEASON. They kept it in their pockets until this game. If it's legitimate and fun why save it?
 
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congrats, dark knights and good luck
 
Fabulousfausy
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Come on theres always next year. They did what they had to do to win. We'll be ahead of the game with the shotgun bug when they stop the run bug this offseason. LOL. You have to remember some people believe if you can do it then do it. Theres another year and they will fix it.( I hope.) We'll bounce back. Great season Milf Hunters ready to roll next year.
 
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Dam Staxringold I was upset but your pissed LOL. I love the competivness though.
 
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Originally posted by staxringold
Originally posted by Elusive Yeti

Originally posted by staxringold


It's the Strong I Slam bug. Enjoy a bullshit trophy, Dark Knights, as opposed to playing the game.


Hey now, you don't see anyone from the Eastern conference being poor sports. We just got our asses handed to us and I'm not whining. It would only be bullshit if you were not able to do the same thing. If it works so well, do it yourself...bug or no bug. Don't get pissed because a team used a play that works.


No thanks, I'll complain all I want. This is a game. For fun. Exploiting a bug like this is like disabling someone else's paintball gun before you start a round. You're not playing anymore. Congratulations, you set run Strong I Slam to 95-99% of your plays and let loose. How is that fun? How is that competition?

And it's patently obvious that the Dark Knights agree as they DIDN'T RUN THIS GAMEPLAN IN ANY OTHER GAME THIS SEASON. They kept it in their pockets until this game. If it's legitimate and fun why save it?


Then I apologize. I thought they ran it all the time and you just didn't plan for it, but if they saved it until now... that is a little cheap. They did what they had to do to win, but to save it until this game, I would be a little upset too. We just got destroyed, so I was a little edgy. Sorry about poking my nose in Western conference business guys.
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To set the record straight, we DID rush all reason, look at the stats. 1023 Rushes, 179 Passing attempts. # 2 Rushing offense and #30 Passing Offense. HMMMMM, that seems like a pretty rush heavy Offense to me. And the Strong I slam is a rush straight up the middle every time. If you look at the play by play we ran outside quite a few times, threw in some pitch plays an even had some trick plays we pulled off, how did ya like the HB pass? We won this game fair and square by doing what we have done all season which is rush the ball. If you would have scouted us you would have seen that. We must have done some pretty good scouting considering we held you to 14 points and 57 yards passing when you averaged 228.6 yards passing a game and 66+ points a game. Oh and lets not forget out regular season match up where we DID try and pass a LITTLE more than usual and went 5 for 14 and a lousy 4 yards per attempt and got beat. You don't think that had anything to do with us going back to our ground game ground game this time do you??? HMMMMMM. It's called good game planning. We shot ourselves in the foot the first game, we sure as heck were not about to do it again.

I hate it when people can't loose with dignity. Every time a good team looses they blame the Strong I slam, take your loss like a man and get ready for next season.
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Originally posted by knudsenjj1
To set the record straight, we DID rush all reason, look at the stats. 1023 Rushes, 179 Passing attempts. # 2 Rushing offense and #30 Passing Offense. HMMMMM, that seems like a pretty rush heavy Offense to me.


Obviously you were a rush-first team. But you never in any game the entire season passed this little or rushed this much.

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We must have done some pretty good scouting considering we held you to 14 points and 57 yards passing when you averaged 228.6 yards passing a game and 66+ points a game. Oh and lets not forget out regular season match up where we DID try and pass a LITTLE more than usual and went 5 for 14 and a lousy 4 yards per attempt and got beat. You don't think that had anything to do with us going back to our ground game ground game this time do you??? HMMMMMM. It's called good game planning. We shot ourselves in the foot the first game, we sure as heck were not about to do it again.


You scored 13 points in our previous matchup, 14 points would win that game.

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I hate it when people can't loose with dignity. Every time a good team looses they blame the Strong I slam, take your loss like a man and get ready for next season.


I'll take my loss however I feel like it, thank you.
 
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Well obviously you are not the game scout for the team, because if you WERE, you would have seen there were 3 games where we passed 3 times or less and 8 games where we passed 7 times or less. Sorry bud, your argument is starting to wash out. You don't have the facts to back it up. So far all you have done is make baseless accusations where I have shown stats and facts. Face it, we out game planned you. It's as simple as that. There was no Strong I Slam and considering passing didn't work last time against you guys, what did you expect to see? More passes? That would have been maybe what you would have LIKED to see, and obviously what you guys planned for but any Offensive GM with a brain would have run, run, run. Heck, I didn't even expect to see those 3 passes. And if we gave you what you expected to see then that would go against what having a brain is for.
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You added 1.5 yards/rush and maintained it over 30 more carries through... throwing 11 fewer passes? You were suddenly able to rush on us like we were the cupcake filled regular season (you got 357 yards here, averaged 373 for the regular season) through the clever game plan of rush up the middle, middle, middle, left, right, left, etc with absolutely no passes whatsoever to force coverage?
 
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Look this just isn't worth making a big scene about. The problem is the run game being broken. 3 yards/carry was all but automatic in this league against 2 similar teams regardless of formation. At the same time at this low level everyone's passing game sucks. Ours too. Those passing yards came from CPU teams. When we got a lead we went all pass to slow the offense down and get the team more plays. Our percentage was terrible until later in the season. Even then it was mediocre at best.

The way the sim is this year the logical thing to do is just run run run. My WR on a team about to go PRO saw 1 pass in the last several games because they felt they had to do the same thing to compete. The game lately has been more about working around problems in the sim than actually trying to simulate a realistic football game.

The Dark Knights put the best game plan they could given the way the sim works. Now had we done the same I do not know who would have won. I do know what it is like to pay money to play a game and then watch your player do nothing game after game. So we chose not to do that.

Strategically the Dark Knights did what would win the game. I don't think you cheated or tried to rip anyone off. I do hope the fixes put in place make a gameplan like that not a viable option next season though.

That said I do not think it is worth getting angry about.
 
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Ummmm, that's called a rushing game.

We averaged 5.8 yards per rush during the regular season and averaged 5 yards per rush in this game.

We averaged 63.9 rushes a game during the regular season and ran it 72 times this game...OOOOOOOO 9 more rush plays than we averaged during the regular season. WOW that smells fishy.

Give it up. The stats speak for themselves and do not back up you theory of we somehow pulled something over on your guys. LOOK at the stats!!!! They tell you we basically did what we did ALL season.
 
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