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Hollywoodx2x
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<cough> two games
 
Shagg
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lol
 
D-will
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<cough> only we have beat the gangsters out of all that wants to merge so far <cough>
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Shagg
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Originally posted by D-will
<cough> only we have beet your team out of all thats offering <cough>


K I get it but its beat.
 
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I don't understand why half these teams would even be considered. Why add to the depth of these already good teams that destroy teams like the Texas Thunder AS IS. The fact is that the Texas Thunder have not been on a level playing field with the rest of the teams. It is extremely difficult to build a team starting from nothing but low level CPUs on day 2 of season 2, but that is what we are doing. We have made tremendous progress but still have a long ways to go. Just look at the level differences from our team to the Globetrotters team to Oakland's team to Detroit's team to DD's team.

Why on earth should we make the rich teams richer only then to be able to stomp the poorer teams even further into the ground? The fact is that if we are going to create another bad team in the New York Gangsters and gut the roster, we should be propping up one of the worst teams in the league that want to stay here and compete.

That said, I am all for your players joining the Miami Bulldogs, the Milwaukee Cougars, the Miami Stingers, the Sacramento Sabrecats, the Las Vegas Gamblers, or even the Minnesota Maurauders. But why should all the teams that are already pouncing on these other teams be the receipients of even more great players (and yes, your level 18 players are great!)?

I thought you guys wanted a competitive league top to bottom... my two cents.

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Shagg
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At 3-4 I'd hardly put us in the rich, that said having his players on my team would definately put us in a good position to make the playoffs. I'm looking at our weaknesses and his players fill that.
 
texasdanger
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Here's an alternative idea that I like even better - sell the team to a new owner that has the time to put into it and leave the roster as is.
 
Shagg
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Thats up to the owner but yeah I see your thinking the Atlantic City Blackjacks are basically down to nothing. Hate to see that happen to the Gangsters. Even still I would welcome them wholeheartedly on my team.
 
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Originally posted by texasdanger
I don't understand why half these teams would even be considered. Why add to the depth of these already good teams that destroy teams like the Texas Thunder AS IS. The fact is that the Texas Thunder have not been on a level playing field with the rest of the teams. It is extremely difficult to build a team starting from nothing but low level CPUs on day 2 of season 2, but that is what we are doing. We have made tremendous progress but still have a long ways to go. Just look at the level differences from our team to the Globetrotters team to Oakland's team to Detroit's team to DD's team.

Why on earth should we make the rich teams richer only then to be able to stomp the poorer teams even further into the ground? The fact is that if we are going to create another bad team in the New York Gangsters and gut the roster, we should be propping up one of the worst teams in the league that want to stay here and compete.

That said, I am all for your players joining the Miami Bulldogs, the Milwaukee Cougars, the Miami Stingers, the Sacramento Sabrecats, the Las Vegas Gamblers, or even the Minnesota Maurauders. But why should all the teams that are already pouncing on these other teams be the receipients of even more great players (and yes, your level 18 players are great!)?

I thought you guys wanted a competitive league top to bottom... my two cents.



to join a winner...? and perhaps compete for a championship? i dont think any player in any competitive sport joins a team because he would want to even out a league...either he is trying to find the best financial situation for himself or puts himself in a situation where he would compete to win a championship... that is why players in the late years who havent won a ring always try to go to team that is a contender. Never have i heard a player said yeah i joined "blank" because it evens out the division or the conference.. so your logic is quite twisted i think my friend. I do however respect the rebuilding you have done with your team, no doubt. And I am sorry that you inherited a team that was gutted however that was your choice to purchase the team and someone at the end of the day is going to move up and someone is going to move down in the league division's. So yes I would think that the Globetrotters should be considered as all teams should be. And we should not be dismissed as a team to have a chance to bring players in who are a higher level based on the fact that we are stronger as a team than your own.

also would like to add... if frankel was to join the Globetrotters or even a team higher in the standings than us it doesnt bring the level of competition down. The teams who dont belong in the division eventually will move down and the teams in triple A who are worthy will move up.. and the cycle will continue. The Utopia Legends were in AAA last year and are doing quite nicely for themselves
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Asheme
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Hmmm...Goddard and Frankel in the same backfield?
 
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Originally posted by Asheme
Hmmm...Goddard and Frankel in the same backfield?

that would be scary... power and frankel would be even worse
 
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Originally posted by texasdanger
Here's an alternative idea that I like even better - sell the team to a new owner that has the time to put into it and leave the roster as is.


Get a couple GM's to help run the thing.

Honestly, and yes, I am being selfish in wanting to not play against a super team, isn't this pretty much the type of collusion that DD and Bort are trying to end?

Can you honestly say that by releasing all your players from your own team and getting them signed to anyother is not gutting your team and colluding with another?

The season is half over, and moving an entire lvl 18 o-line and HB kills the Gangsters and makes whatever team they move to something beyond what anyoe else is going to be able to recruit for in such a short time.

Find some quality GM's, frankel. Don't kill the Gangsters. I love that the West is not the East, and that any team from 1-14 is a competition that is worth scouting and putting in the time.
 
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Originally posted by Hollywoodx2x

to join a winner...? and perhaps compete for a championship? i dont think any player in any competitive sport joins a team because he would want to even out a league...either he is trying to find the best financial situation for himself or puts himself in a situation where he would compete to win a championship... that is why players in the late years who havent won a ring always try to go to team that is a contender. Never have i heard a player said yeah i joined "blank" because it evens out the division or the conference.. so your logic is quite twisted i think my friend. I do however respect the rebuilding you have done with your team, no doubt. And I am sorry that you inherited a team that was gutted however that was your choice to purchase the team and someone at the end of the day is going to move up and someone is going to move down in the league division's. So yes I would think that the Globetrotters should be considered as all teams should be. And we should not be dismissed as a team to have a chance to bring players in who are a higher level based on the fact that we are stronger as a team than your own.

also would like to add... if frankel was to join the Globetrotters or even a team higher in the standings than us it doesnt bring the level of competition down. The teams who dont belong in the division eventually will move down and the teams in triple A who are worthy will move up.. and the cycle will continue. The Utopia Legends were in AAA last year and are doing quite nicely for themselves



The fallacy in your logic is that in this game not all teams can compete on a level playing field. I count roughly 6 or 7 teams that were very poorly managed last year. I don't know how many of them are still with the original owners, obviously my team is not. How are these teams EVER supposed to get better? There are no rookies like Adrian Peterson or Randy Moss or Darren McFadden that can immediately make a team better. It doesn't work that way in this game. In this game you have to toil away and level and level and level your players in order to make them good. Real life isn't quite the same. By your logic, we should take all the teams that can't compete in this league and flush them down to BBB league right now. This is a game and it should be about a level playing field where all teams have the same opportunity. How do you think the teams in the Western Conference feel? They have one or two "patsies" I think is the term someone used in another thread while the Eastern conference has 4 or 5. Which teams have a tougher road? At the very least, conference realignment should have happened after the end of last season.

If this situation was to happen in the NFL (which it never would today), the NFL would distribute all of the team's players to every team in the league via a draft. It wouldn't be a free for all. Look at the USFL disbandonment... The players entered the draft the following year. Every team got a shot, even the bad ones.


There is a whole thread dedicated to this topic in the Announcements forum - it's called "Gutting / Collusion Ideas".

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=175644&page=1

I am against gutting to ANY team. I would prefer this team to be sold and the players remain where they are.

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