Warrior General Games

Hey guys I just wanted to say for everyone to take care and I wish you all the best of luck. The Vancouver Crush aren't going to make it, after that old-owner left us for shit, a new one came in and while things looked promising, he was really no different than the first guy.
He cant put the effort into the team that it needs, we had 3 CBs and 3 WRs for more than 5 games, and at this point, I have been released from my duties as head GM.
Yesterday I gave most of the players season 4 day 40 contracts because when I recruited them to the Crush, it was with a promise that we would be one of the very best teams in A2. I could not hold up to that promise anymore, and its evident the new owner does not have the time it takes to make a team successful. He kinda threw a bit of a fit and released me altogether, which, is fine, im just glad I got my players a way out so they aren't stuck in a place like 'Grise Fjord'(??). Enjoy beating up on them, they should certainly be an A2 ragdoll for some time to come unless someone steps up to the plate, which is most likely not happenning.

I wanna thank everyone for the tough competition you gave us that seemed to have made everyone better, it was fun while it lasted but I do have other teams I am responsible to that are more serious about their competitiiveness.

Take care guys and thanks again!

Matt, I guess I'll catch you around til the offseason. I'll hit you up via PM or AIM sometime, but thanks for what you have done for us while you were there.

Originally posted by cordes72
Matt, I guess I'll catch you around til the offseason. I'll hit you up via PM or AIM sometime, but thanks for what you have done for us while you were there.

It was my pleasure man, yea we will be in contact as we always are. I really enjoyed GMing that team, it felt like my own. Im glad I could get most of our players into day 40 contracts though, I dont want them held in a place thats going to be a wasteland for talent.
Tell the guys to shoot me a PM and to keep in touch. Alot of them will be looking for a new team and I can surely help them find the right spot, even if it isnt one of my own teams. Think of it as an agent that doesnt get paid! hahaha
Hopefully you guys can salvage the last few games and end on a strong note.
Lets Get It!

Sorry to hear that Matt. I always liked Vancouver Crush as a tough opponent. Now they will be the door mat for a long time. I do not know how much the owner kept in contact with everyone in the forums but maybe we was trying to sign people. The other team that I GM has had so many rejections on the contract offers. We get a yes about 1 out of 100 sent. We have only had the gutted team for 1 1/2 weeks but still very tough to get players to join lousy teams. I might be a little easier for better teams but still not easy.

You are not happy what has happened to "your" team but in my mind, you did worse. He was having trouble getting the team built up and now you made it where a bunch of players are gone after the season is over. You say you did it because you promised them they would be competitive. Did you promise the new owner that you would do whatever it takes to get the team winning again? If you had the power to renegotiate, did you have the power to sign new players? If you had that power, did you try to sign people? If you did, could you not find players for the team to play? I know that is a lot of "Ifs" but if all of these were "yes", then you did not improve the team just like the owner. So what makes you "better" than him? What gave you the right to act like the owner and do whatever you wished? No wonder the owner had a fit.

I wish you luck in the future of this game as much as I wish you would learn what a respectable man is. Your name is forever tarnished in my book.

Coach Dawg

That team was doomed the day that kid got the team and made that ridiculous name.

Originally posted by Dawg2u2
Did you promise the new owner that you would do whatever it takes to get the team winning again? If you had the power to renegotiate, did you have the power to sign new players? If you had that power, did you try to sign people? If you did, could you not find players for the team to play? I know that is a lot of "Ifs"..

I wish you luck in the future of this game as much as I wish you would learn what a respectable man is. Your name is forever tarnished in my book.

Coach Dawg

Your right, thats a WHOLE LOT of 'ifs'. You'v seemed like a stand-up guy most of the time Dawg but I think your getting a bit carried away with those accusations. I dont appreciate you assuming those things or that I hurt the team as much as he.


Originally posted by Dawg2u2
Did you promise the new owner that you would do whatever it takes to get the team winning again?

Not even remotely close Dawg, when the new owner assigned me GM'ship it was under the premise that I would be around to set up gameplans and tactics, that I had no time for anythign but that. He was very excited about getting a good team and he said he would spend the time we needed to fill the holes on our roster.


Originally posted by Dawg2u2
If you had the power to renegotiate, did you have the power to sign new players? If you had that power, did you try to sign people?

Yes I had the power to do anything, but as I stated above, our agreement was clear that I did not have time for recruiting and that it would not be my responsibility. There arent any players on that roster that I did not search, recruit, and sign myself. I did however provide the owner with detailed information on tactics for writing up 'pitches' and also giving him minimum build requirements, guidelines to follow to help him weed out ineffective players.


Originally posted by Dawg2u2
So what makes you "better" than him? What gave you the right to act like the owner and do whatever you wished? No wonder the owner had a fit.

Better in what sense? A better man? No, I dont think any of this is really reflective on ones character considering moral piorities are laregely unfounded in a game like GLB, I dont think it makes me a better man. I dont recall saying I thought I was better than him though.

A better owner/GM? Yes ofcoarse I believe im better than him, if because nothing at all but experience. But also the fact that I worked my ass of for 'someone elses' team and this guy couldnt sign 1 player for his own.

I know how hard the player market is, but if in 3 or 4 days I can put together a team that can woop your Lumberjacks in the 2nd round of the playoffs only 10 games into our first season, then I think anyone could find 1 WR and 1 CB in a 5 'week' time-frame.
When I signed those players, I promised every one of them this team would be one of the best in our league, if not the best. I couldn't deliver, and the owner made it clear to me he would not spend the time it took to deliver. On those grounds, I gave my players shorter contracts ebcause it was the right thing to do.

Most new owners come into a gutted team, he was lucky to have these players at all.


I dont know whats up with you, maybe your just having a bad day. But you never seemed like the guy that would shoot from the hip and be disrespectful towards someone based on nothing but assumptions. The only reason I don't take lightly to what you said is because it couldn't be further from the truth.

You speak about knowing what a respectable man should be, but only after you pose personal opinions on a situationg that might or might not be like what your basing those opinions on. Then on top if it, you come to conclusions on it. That considered, seems you need the lesson in respect.

Your respect vs. 30+ of my players respect

Wouldn't it be an easy choice for you too? Maybe not, but if you would handle yourself in my same situation, any differently than I had, you would definately need a lesson in not only respect, but also a lesson in being a man of your word.

I hope I have outlined the situation clearly enough for those to understand, if anyone has problems with my actions, thats absolutely 100% okey dokie. You ask those 30+ guys in the 'locker room' what they think about me and really thats all that matters. This is my last 'hoorah' here so I felt the need to defend my actions and leave on a strong note with my reputation intact.

When owners buy teams, they accept a responsibility to their players, knowingly or not...I delivered on mine.

The issue here isn't whether the owner did his job or not. The issue is that the owner appeared to be doing nothing, and stopped posting. If the owner logs in every day but is effectively MIA in regards to his team, there aren't many conclusions you can draw from that. You can be the hardest working, most reliable person in the world, but if you have no communication, you can't complain when things don't go your way, and people point the finger at you.

Originally posted by G33
The issue here isn't whether the owner did his job or not. The issue is that the owner appeared to be doing nothing, and stopped posting. If the owner logs in every day but is effectively MIA in regards to his team, there aren't many conclusions you can draw from that. You can be the hardest working, most reliable person in the world, but if you have no communication, you can't complain when things don't go your way, and people point the finger at you.

I think the owner made a few posts upon receiving the team, hired a few GMs, fired them, and hadn't been heard of since. This all started because Matt was doing everything exclusively for the Crush before the sale, after the sale the owner said he'd reinstate Matt to help out, but he must have just assumed Matt would do the same job even after he clearly stated he couldn't.

Originally posted by cordes72
Originally posted by G33

The issue here isn't whether the owner did his job or not. The issue is that the owner appeared to be doing nothing, and stopped posting. If the owner logs in every day but is effectively MIA in regards to his team, there aren't many conclusions you can draw from that. You can be the hardest working, most reliable person in the world, but if you have no communication, you can't complain when things don't go your way, and people point the finger at you.

I think the owner made a few posts upon receiving the team, hired a few GMs, fired them, and hadn't been heard of since. This all started because Matt was doing everything exclusively for the Crush before the sale, after the sale the owner said he'd reinstate Matt to help out, but he must have just assumed Matt would do the same job even after he clearly stated he couldn't.


Definately what it seemed like.

Never came in here either... I wonder which other owners have never posted in here.
EDIT: even Blitzkrieg's, and the Military's new owners at least announced their arrival

Originally posted by stromstarhammer
Never came in here either... I wonder which other owners have never posted in here.
EDIT: even Blitzkrieg's, and the Military's new owners at least announced their arrival

*crickets*

We could go back and forth forever and bore everyone else reading this thread. I choose not to do this. I just know that under no circumstances should a GM be allowed to gut a team short of the owner telling him to gut it.

That is all I am going to say about this subject.

Matt didn't gut it. We asked to be released... Matt gave us end on day 40 contracts.

The new OWNER traded away our best RB, the new OWNER traded away our Cornerbacks and our Safeties. The Owner is the one who did any kind of gutting. Matt has not removed anyone from the team. He simply gave those players who did not want to be stuck into their season 5 contracts what they wanted. Now its up to the owner to try and convince us to stay.

So far his tactics have been to bring in a new GM who with his first post on the team forums insulted the team's integrity and heart.

Actually I need to correct something... It wasn't the owner who traded all our top players away. It was the New (and former) GM Bruce Anders. The guy gutted the team, got fired for it... and now he's back again lol.

I might possibly be looking to stay in Canada A #2 just to beat on these guys... lol not sure if any of the teams need any o-linemen though.

I love how everyone just refers to him as "owner." I don't even know what this guys name is, nor do I care. Seems to be a lot of gutting in GLB lately, lots of GLBers think it'd be fun to own a team; then can't own up to it. Even our league has seen it's share. I'm glad that so many of us are willing to put in what it takes to keep this league going, and keep it active though. I've only ever seen 1 other league that was fun like this one, that's BBB15. Hopefully there won't be any more gutting, and hopefully our low-leveled opponents are able to catch up soon to join the competition.