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What level of Vision do you all prefer for a Pro Level Linebacker? The archtype in question is a HHLB if that has any bearing on the question.

I might as well ask while I'm here--what level of Agility do you think is appropriate for the same build?

80+ agil 75+ Vision minimum

Originally posted by RyanCane26
80+ agil 75+ Vision minimum

That's very helpful! Thank you for your help.

Originally posted by RyanCane26
80+ agil 75+ Vision minimum

Like Ryan said those numbers minimum.

I like mine mid to upper 80's for both.

Originally posted by Kurt Davey
Like Ryan said those numbers minimum.

I like mine mid to upper 80's for both.

Thank you, I appreciate it!

Can someone explain why a linebacker would need 75-80 vision?

That's 10-15 less than a safety usually ends up with. And wouldn't it depend on the build goal? If you're building a straight up agility/speed blitz LB surely you'd need less vision because all they'd be reliably doing (providing the DC was on point) is blitzing? I can understand it from a KL or coverage LB to have high vision, but the rest doesn't make sense.

Just to be clear, I'm not arguing people in this thread are wrong I'm genuinely curious.

Originally posted by StabbyMcGinge
Can someone explain why a linebacker would need 75-80 vision?

That's 10-15 less than a safety usually ends up with. And wouldn't it depend on the build goal? If you're building a straight up agility/speed blitz LB surely you'd need less vision because all they'd be reliably doing (providing the DC was on point) is blitzing? I can understand it from a KL or coverage LB to have high vision, but the rest doesn't make sense.

Just to be clear, I'm not arguing people in this thread are wrong I'm genuinely curious.

80-90+ vision is for IntLBs, for me.

Originally posted by StabbyMcGinge
Can someone explain why a linebacker would need 75-80 vision?

That's 10-15 less than a safety usually ends up with. And wouldn't it depend on the build goal? If you're building a straight up agility/speed blitz LB surely you'd need less vision because all they'd be reliably doing (providing the DC was on point) is blitzing? I can understand it from a KL or coverage LB to have high vision, but the rest doesn't make sense.

Just to be clear, I'm not arguing people in this thread are wrong I'm genuinely curious.
It does depend on the build goal, but he asked about a HH LB. The common all speed equipment HH LB the goal is to be in vs run personnel but doesn't mean teams won't still pass so you have run/pass vision checks, and then helps avoid blockers and follow the backs path on run plays. LBs have custom depth chart slots so theoretically they can get away with less vision then safeties.

A coverage LB, of course, will have more. Blitzers and Stength based outside LBers can have less.

Originally posted by RyanCane26

It does depend on the build goal, but he asked about a HH LB. The common all speed equipment HH LB the goal is to be in vs run personnel but doesn't mean teams won't still pass so you have run/pass vision checks, and then helps avoid blockers and follow the backs path on run plays. LBs have custom depth chart slots so theoretically they can get away with less vision then safeties.

A coverage LB, of course, will have more. Blitzers and Stength based outside LBers can have less.


Thanks for the reply!

More HHLB questions:

I've got a shot at a 4-AEQ build with 4 5% pieces (I got lucky rolls).

Is there a reason to NOT go with 2 5% Make Tackle pieces, 1 5% Break Block piece, and 1 5% Avoid Fake piece?

Or would I better off with 1 Make Tackle piece and 2 Break Block pieces (and 1 Avoid Fake piece)?

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Is there a reason to NOT go with 2 5% Make Tackle pieces, 1 5% Break Block piece, and 1 5% Avoid Fake piece?

Sounds like a great setup to me. Would swap Avoid Fake for Force Fumble % in a KL scheme if he's playing any underneath coverage, but in run support that build sounds great to me.