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https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5029135&page=5#46752639

Originally posted by BORT REPLY
Originally posted by Originally posted by bhall43

It is entirely too complex to throw one straight up guide at a person. Things like that will just turn away a new user. It is best they pace themselves, ask questions in FAQ and join private forums where people like myself can either help directly or direct them to someone who can.

Back to YAC Attack though since it was brought up. Does YAC Attack stack with slippery/bruiser or is it a separate roll on its own? I have read the Wiki link on it but am confused when you say the differences are in the timing of when they get added to the stack. Is the bonus from 15 YAC Attack and 15 Slippery better than the bonus from 15 Slippery and 9 YAC Attack (since that would theoretically equal the 75% max if they stacked together and weren't a separate roll) ?


YAC and Slippery/Bruiser do stack, but the order in which they are dealt with means that they are not additive but multiplicative (you get slippery/bruiser all the time to you break tackle score, which then gets the YAC bonus later multiplied on top when the situation comes up). I agree it's kinda confusing.
 
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The quote kinda implies slippery is +30%, and YAC attack is +75% to that original +30%, meaning 1*0.3*0.75 = +52.5% which is under the "75% hard cap".

Is that correct? I was completely unaware of this quote or wtf it means?
Edited by WiSeIVIaN on Jun 7, 2024 13:18:53
 
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But on the other hand, no matter how they stack, 15 YAC ATTACK by itself (with no adding or multiplying) is +75%. So how would it make sense that even 1 point of slippery with 15 points of YAC ATTACK isn't over the limit?

Unless Bort is saying since they are at different parts of his lolmath calc, they can't possibly hit that 75%+ limit regardless?
 
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you are not mathing correct
 
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Ok, so I've read that about 15,000 times over the course of my GLB career

What I've chosen to believe is that...

#1 they do both count towards the 75% limit

#2 it's up to the agent to decide how they want to split that 75%

For example, maybe a dot that only 100% of the time catches screen passes might want to make 75% for only 15 VPs

Maybe a Spin Monster would rather have 30% from Slippery 15, and then add in 45% from YAC for 24 VPs total

Maybe your new hot shot FB could do 30% from 10 Bruiser, and 9 YAC for 19 VPs.

The way I choose to believe the math works is you get your Total Break Tackle score, let's say 50 for easy math. Then you do your Bruiser from the last example, for a total of 50*1.30 = 65. Then you do the YAC attack on top of that for a grand total of 94.25.

If it was straight additive, it would be 50*1.75 = 87.5

So more YAC is better in this example, but it's not completely off the chain with maxed Bruiser and maxed YAC Attack
which would be 126+ total.

Edited by TJ Spikes on Jun 7, 2024 15:36:22
 
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But that's a belief I have based on how we believe other things work. It could be way off.

There's a few other Bort Quotes about it in earlier Q&As, that specifically say that yes YAC attack counts towards 75%

I also believe that the magical power of Clutch VA is the only thing that doesn't apply to the 75%, because I believe it affects the base number, not the %. Like if Power Through fires it adds 10 to go from 50 to 60, and Clutch helps make sure it fires.

Then all the other % numbers go on top of that.

I also have the Superstition that % gear is exactly the same as VA %. So it also counts towards the 75%





 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
you are not mathing correct


Help me math kthx.
 


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