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Novus
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Only caught 37% of his targets.

I just searched for 5 minutes and found multiple plateau WRs who caught over 50% of their targets, including in the playoffs, in AAA #1.

 
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Originally posted by Pwned
It's definitely a more is better situation. But is it like a 11.3 is better than 11 type of thing.


Pretending the 12th point is reduced by 70% isn't based on anything. It is very unlikely based on bort quotes that the cliff is that hard. It'll be an exponential formula, undoubtedly.

If 11 power thru is 11 powerthru, but 16 powerthru acts like 13 powerthru, it can be worth it to take an SA to 16. Since each point effects both chance to fire and effects strength when firing.
 
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Originally posted by Novus
Only caught 37% of his targets.

I just searched for 5 minutes and found multiple plateau WRs who caught over 50% of their targets, including in the playoffs, in AAA #1.



Yards per play = yards per target = yards per carry. This is important.

Comp% tells a story or variance.
 
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Yards per play = yards per target = yards per carry. This is important.

Comp% tells a story or variance.


If your WR is only catching 1 out 3 targets, then if I throw to him on 1st down, 2nd down, and 3rd down, there's a very good chance he'll whiff on all 3 targets and I'll be punting on 4th & 10.

No thank you.
 
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I mean, if my RB breaks off a single 90-yard run and then gets stuffed for no gain 9 times, he's averaging 9 yards per carry. So what?

I'd much rather have the RB who averages 5 yards per carry but never gets stuffed.
 
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What if you don't throw to the same player deep every play and instead have other plays some of which are targeting 1st downs?

Sno somehow led Pro2 in scoring. Plag was the top WR on the team by a larger margin. If you think this is not helpful to an offense you are simply mistaken.

 
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Originally posted by Novus

I'd much rather have the RB who averages 5 yards per carry but never gets stuffed.


This doesn't exist for rbs or wrs tho? Nothing is guaranteed.

Saying you'd like a wr who on the same targets has double the catches but 1/2 of the yards, is not the proper way to look at the passing game.


Also comparing to AAA dots that got to play much easier teams in most games, is also a bit lolz.
Edited by WiSeIVIaN on Feb 21, 2024 12:01:31
 
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So I'm hearing an argument about "Steady Eddy" vs "Flashy Cathy". I'm down for Eddy. As said by an old Navy coach, "3 yards per carry is perfect because 3+3+3+3=1st down."
 
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I don't think the gap between Pro 2 and AAA 1 was as big as you think it was, but okay, sure, we can only look at Pro. For example, Pro 2, where Sno finished 10-6 in 4th place and only scored 17 points in an opening round playoff loss to OPT. Your WR was 1-for-5, and your team completed 27% of its pass attempts. Sure, just 1 game... but it was by far the most important game on your schedule, and Sno's offense no-showed. That tells me you were feasting on low-cares regular season defenses, but then you starved the first time someone made a real effort to stop you. That doesn't say "elite offense" to me.

By the way, OPT's roster of WRs all averaged over 50% completion, including during the playoffs, where they played 3 games, not 1.

Yards Per Target matters, but you're over-estimating its importance. OPT's YPT was lower, but their offense showed up when it mattered most.
 
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Yards per play = yards per target = yards per carry. This is important.

Comp% tells a story or variance.


Sticky Hand and HarrisonJr both with a huge advantage on YPT.


Is spamming plays for a less efficient player better than a more efficient player on regular volume? Honest question
 
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Originally posted by Kegergator
Sticky Hand and HarrisonJr both with a huge advantage on YPT.


Zero idea who you're talking about. Link ldo.
 
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Originally posted by Kegergator
Sticky Hand and HarrisonJr both with a huge advantage on YPT.


Is spamming plays for a less efficient player better than a more efficient player on regular volume? Honest question


It depends.

I'm not gonna lie, it would be nice to have an explosive WR like Wiseman's on the roster... but you'd have to be very careful how you use him. As a secondary or tertiary weapon, sure. If he's the top target, or if all of your WRs are built like that, well... (/points to Sno's playoff loss to OPT).
 
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Originally posted by Novus
That tells me you were feasting on low-cares regular season defenses, but then you starved the first time someone made a real effort to stop you. That doesn't say "elite offense" to me.


You are mistaken. RC definitely shut off for a point in the regular season, but we clearly got a custom defense from Hood & War, and there was definitely effort by most teams in Pro this season. You pretending regular season stats don't count because no one tried is illogical ignorance. People clearly wanted to win their way into WL this season.


Originally posted by Novus
For example, Pro 2, where Sno finished 10-6 in 4th place and only scored 17 points in an opening round playoff loss to OPT. Your WR was 1-for-5, and your team completed 27% of its pass attempts. Sure, just 1 game... but it was by far the most important game on your schedule, and Sno's offense no-showed.


OPT is very very good and did very very good against everyone. For my money, they were the best team in GLB this season.

Their highest points allowed (regular season + playoffs) were...
24: War Machine
21: KC Playmakers
20: Sno
20: London Exiles
19: Hood
19: Louisville
17: Sno
17: Asau
17: Asau


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Conclusion: Stop pretending a team scoring 17 in a playoff game vs OPT means this dot isn't amazing.






 
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Originally posted by Novus
It depends.

I'm not gonna lie, it would be nice to have an explosive WR like Wiseman's on the roster... but you'd have to be very careful how you use him. As a secondary or tertiary weapon, sure. If he's the top target, or if all of your WRs are built like that, well... (/points to Sno's playoff loss to OPT).


Since every team lost to OPT in the playoffs, by your logic all dots on all teams that aren't on OPT, causes you to lose to OPT?
 
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You're the one who stated that you have the best WR and the best offense in Pro 2.

I happen to think the best WR and the best offense in Pro 2 should perform better than 1 catch on 5 targets for the WR, and 27% completion and only 17 points for the team in the playoffs.

By the way, OPT's other playoff opponents had more yards per target against OPT than Sno did.

You're overfocusing on one stat where you like shiny while ignoring other stats and glossing over the big picture.

You do not have the best WR or the best offense in Pro 2. Period.
 
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