Warrior General Games

104 seasons in and lots of resources available. Yet I see lots of dots built and/or advertised that are so confusing?

For example: PR DE's who miss taking advantage of a slight weight VA addition. Arch types that are catch related, yet have no Catch% add ons, PR dots who don't have BT%'s, Cover guys with BB%, Blitz guys with no BB%, PQB's who don't even soft cap speed.

I could go on, but you get the picture. It seems with GLB as in RL, common sense is apparently not so common. I say all this to exhort builders to take the time and effort in building a dot, to use some common sense. There are lots of guides to build a top flight dot. Another option is just ask, as we all benefit from a larger quantity pool.

This thread was inspired by too many marginal examples of FA's I saw in PLFT. Some who were not so good dots, and then some who were oxymorons. Good numbers at the end are essential, but so is rounding out the accoutrements of a dot.
EDIT: Looks and a personality, who could ask for more!!!

LB with 8 in catching but 15% INT EQ....

Dots were better 50 seasons than they are now. More has been forgotten about this game than most of us know.

The fact is at this point 99% of good dotbuilders only build for specific teams (cradle to the grave or network) because free agency died a long long time ago. So the only guys who have with PLFT threads tend to be those that don't have a strong background in dotbuilding. Which is of course a shame, because the real game begins when you know how to build dots efficiently at a general level.

I used to have a forum to teach good dotbuilding, but that effort died a decade ago.

If anyone truly wants to help the community: create build guides, create a forum with build tips, open/share builds, all that stuff. I would but I'm too tired at this point to care.

A lot of the people refuse to accept the knowledge. Some may truly be experimenting. Some are stubborn.

My excuse is that I am stupid.

Boredom? Apathy? I mean this might sound mean but this game is almost perfect for someone with OCD. I suspect some had just had it with the same ol' same ol' and are doing whatever trips their trigger. I still experiment... most are crap but now and then I really nail an idea. Gotta do something to keep the head in the game... or I could just build an AI bot and let him do everything for me. Dots would be perfect and I'd spend less time on them so more time for me to go golfing or work around the house.

Originally posted by King of Bling
104 seasons in and lots of resources available. Yet I see lots of dots built and/or advertised that are so confusing?

For example: Blitz guys with no BT%



Why would a blitzing LB need to break tackles?

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN

The fact is at this point 99% of good dotbuilders only build for specific teams (cradle to the grave or network) because free agency died a long long time ago. So the only guys who have with PLFT threads tend to be those that don't have a strong background in dotbuilding.


Hmmm, I disagree. Case in point: I recently advertised a soon to be L79 PQB and hardly got a nibble. He was better than some I finished a season earlier, however the majority are content with mediocrity.


Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
I used to have a forum to teach good dotbuilding, but that effort died a decade ago.

You have stated countless times that you are not a good dot builder. Fact or false humility?


Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
If anyone truly wants to help the community: create build guides, create a forum with build tips, open/share builds, all that stuff. I would but I'm too tired at this point to care.

That info exists. Also I'm sure I'm not alone in sending PM's to people to help, only to get bluntly or politely refused. Hardly worth the effort.


Again, the resources are there. However in the OP I was talking specifically about oxymoron/confusing builds; Int% on a blitz dot, no Catch% on a receiver, no HB on a blocker, FF on an int DB, etc.

I am all for enlarging the pond, not only with players but also quality. I recently set up a roster that could have been done for four teams of builders I have identified as knowledgeable. In addition, I had two decline invites for various reasons. There are quality dotballers out there in a sizeable number, we just need to try and expand it for the good of the game.

I write this because for me, this is the funnest game I've ever played. 16 years and lots of $ and I still love it

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Originally posted by King of Bling

You have stated countless times that you are not a good dot builder. Fact or false humility?
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I am the most humble person you'll ever meat. I the absolute best at being humble.

Keep in mind my last dot to reach plateau before s105 did so in s44.

Out of my 6 dots I created that hit plat in s105, 2 are living gods, 3 are pretty good, 1 is horrible. Only dot I made that isn't lolz-speed stuff is 1526 EL 3AE, led AAA in Sacks and will lead Pro/WL in sacks soon. https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4847842

I'm OK I think. My worse attribute as a dotbuilder is that I don't actually build many dots.

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
I am the most humble person you'll ever meat. I the absolute best at being humble.

Oh stop it!

Originally posted by King of Bling
I recently advertised a soon to be L79 PQB and hardly got a nibble..

No teams get all the way to Level 79 without a QB, so expecting teams to need a QB in plateau is a bit unrealistic.

Originally posted by King of Bling
Also I'm sure I'm not alone in sending PM's to people to help, only to get bluntly or politely refused. Hardly worth the effort.

You need to work on your word play a little bit. As someone whom you've given advice to (albeit not requested) it was brutal trying to take your advice in the "tone" that I felt that you gave it in. I don't think you meant to come off condescending, but it did indeed read that way. Sometimes I think you have the best intentions but you fail to deliver the message as you wanted to. So often times the recipient of your knowledge will tune you out because they don't want to be talked down to.

But he's ... the king! Kings usually talk that way.

Originally posted by Kenshinzen
But he's ... the king! Kings usually talk that way.

Oh please

To be fair... It's not like the game has an official tutorial. There's a hundred different threads scattered all over the site. Most of them are written from different perspectives with different goals.

Every guide (almost) I have ever written has had the objective of taking someone from 0 to average.

"Average" as in being able to beat CPU dots.

Also, not everyone wants to invest the effort in a text based Dark-Souls-difficulty football MMO.

On top of all that, some agents insist on making threads about how the most soul sucking, fun killing, boredom inducing way to build is the way everyone needs to be building dots.

That should be advanced dot building theory, locked away in a private forum for those where that extra 2% is actually beneficial.

Originally posted by TJ Spikes
To be fair... It's not like the game has an official tutorial. There's a hundred different threads scattered all over the site. Most of them are written from different perspectives with different goals.

Every guide (almost) I have ever written has had the objective of taking someone from 0 to average.

"Average" as in being able to beat CPU dots.

Also, not everyone wants to invest the effort in a text based Dark-Souls-difficulty football MMO.

On top of all that, some agents insist on making threads about how the most soul sucking, fun killing, boredom inducing way to build is the way everyone needs to be building dots.

That should be advanced dot building theory, locked away in a private forum for those where that extra 2% is actually beneficial.






TO BE FAIRRRRRRRRR - LetterKenny

This is spot on, in a world full of video games that give you everything you need to be unstoppable by just applying time commitment, this game is the opposite. Somehow you have to figure out what everything means with minimal "Easy Mode". Not too show how big of a basement dwelling neckbeard i used to be, but it reminds me of the old style of mmorpg's. The elites held the knowledge and it was very difficult to break into that club. It wasn't easy to learn and the drive to somehow get accepted into an elite raiding guild or an elite World League was the only drive to keep people coming back.

Then if by some chance you got into an elite team, your life was now gone because of the sheer amount of time it took to stay elite.

I bought a casual team this season with the idea that maybe casual meant easy mode, yeah, no. If you take away the hard aspect of the game it loses its flair though. So sure, make an easy mode but don't destroy the infinite carrot on a stick rat race for those of us that are addicts.....and hell ive only been back for 110 days....

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I build subpar dots in purpose…why? Because PK that’s why

Originally posted by Pwned
You need to work on your word play a little bit. As someone whom you've given advice to (albeit not requested) it was brutal trying to take your advice in the "tone" that I felt that you gave it in. I don't think you meant to come off condescending, but it did indeed read that way. Sometimes I think you have the best intentions but you fail to deliver the message as you wanted to. So often times the recipient of your knowledge will tune you out because they don't want to be talked down to.

My apologies. I do not recall the PM, but I assure you it would have been sent in sincerity to help. Sorry if that was not conveyed as such