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TyDavis315
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This is my first season not completely on autopilot, so I’m trying to be more active with my test team (& atomic when asked). I don’t want to give bad advice, but I’m starting to see him go down my route which is kinda sad to see. Quitting ain’t for the weak-hearted lol.

He has really good ideas to his credit, but I feel like it also does too much which backfires more often than not. I’m not as versed in the game anymore, but I don’t think it’s the builds; they’re fairly easy to work with based on my experience earlier. I’ve been assuming it’s a style thing, but I’m just in my second season of owning a rushing team so I couldn’t tell ya tbh.

That said, he was also the one carrying much of the load for Test Site for the second half of last season & we had a decent end to it. Looking back at the games & matching them to his tactics and playbooks, I can definitely say that they don’t matchup with what I’m seeing from his team so I understand that bit of frustration.

I feel like my opinion isn’t the only one he should hear on this (especially considering I quit every other 5 seasons after a change sets me off), but I having full playbooks when you’re “balanced” is counter productive- no matter what the priority is, no matter what your tactics are. Playbook and what’s in it seems like the only important factors to me.
Edited by TyDavis315 on Feb 6, 2024 10:44:21
 
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I will say though that a new conspiracy I’m brewing based on last season’s numbers and the numbers from when I was in control earlier in this one - GLB2 code is doing something to his rushing bc the last few (3-4) games have looked purposely bad. Pls take a look if you think I’m joking, I’ve never seen so much touch blocks & missed assignments in my life.

It’s one thing if you’re playing an elite level rushing defense coming it, but for them to give up yards to everyone besides one of the best rushers in the past two seasons is interested. I went to check the stats & this has only happened 3 times in the dot’s career & they were in early rookie still. Now on a 4 game streak of being completely terrible, after literally being the best runner in the tier.

Actually looking at it, I would’ve quit tbh. When QBs got some attention, the drop-off from pro to vet was enough to send me back to madden & manager based games lol
 
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I was going to quit every season (Like since I started owning teams). I was just ready to give it up. I thought I wasn't picking it up and my builds sucked, my play calling was just horrible and my def was always getting torched. I got some advice on my play calling that at first seemed like it would limit me to being predictable (just putting 5 plays in a section of the playbook). I tried it and my team seemed to get more consistent. Some of the consistent wasn't working in my favor but it was consistent. So I changed it up and use 5-10 plays per section of the playbook which I am constantly updating depending on how well the plays are working. I had to pick plays that were good for my builds. I probably should have made my builds to match the plays I wanted to run before I built but I did it backwards. If my receiver has the Hard Cut SA which I like then I wanted them cutting as much as possible, so I ran a lot of corner strike routes. I still tag my plays based on how many YPC for runs cause ten run plays in each section can still be inconsistent, so I personally tag them 1 dot if they only get 1-1.9 YPC and repeat for the others based on YPC. In my passing playbook, I will take a dot off for: INT's_ Sacks_ and completion % under 50. It's all about the consistency. For the life of me def is always a challenge cause there is so many great coaches with consistently sick offenses. As much advice as I have gotten from the vets, I still find myself using trial and error a lot. End of my story, I hope he doesn't quit, cause I had Atomic for winning the division in Pumpkin. The team looks good and is one I am watching out for in the future.
Edited by Daserpent22 on Feb 6, 2024 11:12:57
 
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Originally posted by TyDavis315
I will say though that a new conspiracy I’m brewing based on last season’s numbers and the numbers from when I was in control earlier in this one - GLB2 code is doing something to his rushing bc the last few (3-4) games have looked purposely bad. Pls take a look if you think I’m joking, I’ve never seen so much touch blocks & missed assignments in my life.

It’s one thing if you’re playing an elite level rushing defense coming it, but for them to give up yards to everyone besides one of the best rushers in the past two seasons is interested. I went to check the stats & this has only happened 3 times in the dot’s career & they were in early rookie still. Now on a 4 game streak of being completely terrible, after literally being the best runner in the tier.

Actually looking at it, I would’ve quit tbh. When QBs got some attention, the drop-off from pro to vet was enough to send me back to madden & manager based games lol


Who is this best running back?
 
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Originally posted by HayRow
Who is this best running back?


I think this is the running back of which he speaks. I think the back is still having a great season.

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/16754
Edited by Daserpent22 on Feb 6, 2024 12:07:47
 
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Originally posted by Daserpent22
I think this is the running back of which he speaks. I think the back is still having a great season.

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/player/16754


dude doesn't have a 5ypc season in him...best in tier...c'mon maaaaaaan
Edited by HayRow on Feb 6, 2024 12:33:00
 
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Originally posted by HayRow
dude doesn't have a 5ypc season in him...best in tier...c'mon maaaaaaan


I wouldn't say best, but he is definitely utilized. It could be that he isn't getting consistent play calls. He could be averaging 1 YPC on a dive and running that play more than he should. Not saying my RB is any better.
 
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Originally posted by TyDavis315
https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/team/6265

This is my first season not completely on autopilot, so I’m trying to be more active with my test team (& atomic when asked). I don’t want to give bad advice, but I’m starting to see him go down my route which is kinda sad to see. Quitting ain’t for the weak-hearted lol.

He has really good ideas to his credit, but I feel like it also does too much which backfires more often than not. I’m not as versed in the game anymore, but I don’t think it’s the builds; they’re fairly easy to work with based on my experience earlier. I’ve been assuming it’s a style thing, but I’m just in my second season of owning a rushing team so I couldn’t tell ya tbh.

That said, he was also the one carrying much of the load for Test Site for the second half of last season & we had a decent end to it. Looking back at the games & matching them to his tactics and playbooks, I can definitely say that they don’t matchup with what I’m seeing from his team so I understand that bit of frustration.

I feel like my opinion isn’t the only one he should hear on this (especially considering I quit every other 5 seasons after a change sets me off), but I having full playbooks when you’re “balanced” is counter productive- no matter what the priority is, no matter what your tactics are. Playbook and what’s in it seems like the only important factors to me.


In fairness, a lot of times when people say, "I know it ain't the builds." ... It's the builds.
 
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Like opening up the team and going to the RB, his traits are Superstar, Thick Skin, Workhorse.

It's absolutely build related.

He's got 33 Reps so he doesn't have sub 20 Power Running but he runs a 4.48 so he's got a good chunk of Sprinting.

So he's either a sub 100 Power Running powerback, or a combo back who is paying full price for Elusive and Power Running. In either case that completely ruins the build.
Edited by ellix on Feb 6, 2024 13:21:59
 
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Because the RB concerned me I'm digging more.

You've got a normie OT on medium contract in the team when you already have 2 Star OTs, just a waste of cap space there you should be starting your stars every play, no rotation.

Oline isn't using Early Bloomer, so you're just down 20k+ SP out the gate, so your blocking isn't as good as it should be.

WR with Easy Going on Medium contract.

Blocking TE on the team but no Blocking Specialist or Rec Specialist and instead went with Spring Board.

A TE with Easy Going on Medium Contract.

A WR with Strong Base and Spring Board.

Workhorse just all over the place.

These are just things I'm spotting taking a few minutes in the bathroom on my phone.

Even if these players were built perfectly, which they assuredly aren't otherwise they'd know not to take these traits to begin with, they'd still be down thousands of SP relative to their peers.

Things like this is explicitly why I made academy, you can't even begin to know if you're making coaching mistakes if you can't be reasonably sure you're not playing with one hand tied behind your back because your team's scheme and builds aren't solid.
Edited by ellix on Feb 6, 2024 13:34:28
Edited by ellix on Feb 6, 2024 13:32:29
Edited by ellix on Feb 6, 2024 13:31:27
Edited by ellix on Feb 6, 2024 13:30:11
 
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Continuing to defense, low contract DT with Quick Feet.

Superstar DT with Workhorse. Prod DT with Workhorse.

Two normie DEs on the roster to go with a star. It might seem odd but Dlinemen just don't need back ups unless they're specialists you're swapping out.

Star DE also has Workhorse.

Normie DE on medium contract has Easy Going, Workhorse.

The whole defense apparently just has Workhorse.

The CBs have Spring Board.

Star SS has Spring Board.

FS on medium has Easy Going.

Carrying 38 players when you only need 36 and having to use low contracts to pull that off.

 
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Originally posted by ellix
In fairness, a lot of times when people say, "I know it ain't the builds." ... It's the builds.


100%

although with newer agents it's usually playcalls>>>>builds>>conspiracy
 
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There are a lot of different factors to consider. I do think that playcalling and builds are two of the biggest.
For example...
Two teams using identical playbooks and tactics, the better-built team will win barring rng.
Two teams with identical builds, the team with better playcalling will win barring rng.
Lastly is the experience factor. It is a bit unrealistic for a new player to come in and beat a veteran coach with years of experience.
 
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I would probably get blasted for my builds as well. I think I have just managed to figure out how to get the most of what I made. Of course this game is all trial and error. A lot of vets have made a lot of errors for me to learn from and get better and I make a lot of my own. Some builds and teams are just learning experiences. Being in the discord academy definitely helps make the builds better and learn what to expect from the changelog as most of the changes are directly addressed there before Bort makes the changes.

I can see a lot of things I have done wrong in my builds just taking a look at the notes here. Like none of my line or any of my players use EB. I rotate my O-line aggressively as well as my D-Line. I have a useless FS that barely plays without a 5 WR set on the field. I could probably break my team apart with all the mistakes I made but I am going to play it out knowing that it's a learning experience to get better in the long run. One of the things I have found most commonly hated is hidden potential which I used a bunch of. The only advantage I have found with it is season ending re- specializing the player to a different role or getting more from a skill without having to use a boost, so I can use it somewhere else.
 
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Game is always changing too. If you are gone for 5 seasons and return, you are already behind the curve.
 
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