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during the off-season we decided to invest points in awareness across the board. since then we’ve been having constant awareness errors on both sides of the ball. we’re getting pretty good at it.

even throughout the duration of last season, we played our best with modest contributions. towards the end (once the focus shifted to prepping awareness for the way we wanted to play this season) we fell of heavily once again.

offensively, no one’s on the same page and the playmakers are wasting possessions with the ball in their hands. Our HB is the opposite though, carrying awareness seems to have helped his YAC significantly but rushing wise he looks worse in IQ (could also still be slippery, but these decisions can’t be getting overridden that much by a rushing style can it?). Uninvested in it on my QB and he looks better running.

defensively, we went from that being our bread and butter to sucking absolute butt. the idea was to beef up the back end while we work on the front, but nothing sperry’s been trying is getting us back there.

kinda lost as to what to do honestly. We figured our offense would take a while to come around, but our defense is looking scary (and not in the good way) at the moment. We’re looking slow and lost on both sides of the ball; like a conservative tackling team (which we were the opposite of our rookie season - much more reckless abandonment).

Any thoughts?

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/11338/137167

Oof, ugh this right here.

70 tackling tech, 80 Zone & 90 pursuit high safety. MLB engages (clears the block & hustles to get back in the effin play), while the safety.. collects extra earnings on the bet he placed.

We have a certain style of play in mind, and can’t seem to get everyone to buy in now that they’re aware (woke?) or whatever.

Originally posted by TyDavis315
https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/11338/137167

Oof, ugh this right here.

70 tackling tech, 80 Zone & 90 pursuit high safety. MLB engages (clears the block & hustles to get back in the effin play), while the safety.. collects extra earnings on the bet he placed.

We have a certain style of play in mind, and can’t seem to get everyone to buy in now that they’re aware (woke?) or whatever.

energy and morale

Originally posted by eTHICCalBEEF
energy and morale

DBs were getting their asses slid via the pass - once they were in the dumps plays were for watching, not making

Originally posted by TyDavis315
DBs were getting their asses slid via the pass - once they were in the dumps plays were for watching, not making

Bort has confirmed that Heart is a multiplier basically. Which also means morale low is a de-myltiplier.

On defense I am a heavy believer in high awareness across the board

Awareness on defense is for sure one of the best stats in the game, especially considering its cost.

On HBs it's also *generally* great.

On QBs? EH?

Depends on the defensive awareness.

Man or zone aware? Only slightly. Blitz awareness on the line and pursuit for all other positions? Very very good.

Originally posted by Raid
Depends on the defensive awareness.

Man or zone aware? Only slightly. Blitz awareness on the line and pursuit for all other positions? Very very good.

just curious, what makes you think man or zone awareness are only slightly important?

Best zone defenses always have zone awareness over 80 everywhere. Guys that run zone have seen first hand their pass defense is okay until they get to about 80 then they start seeing players jumping at passes and covering guys better.

Originally posted by dredgar
just curious, what makes you think man or zone awareness are only slightly important?

Best zone defenses always have zone awareness over 80 everywhere. Guys that run zone have seen first hand their pass defense is okay until they get to about 80 then they start seeing players jumping at passes and covering guys better.



Our CBs are in that 80 range for both, FS is at around 60 man currently (this season his role was supposed to expand to blitz pickup on HBs & secondary TEs) and SS is at 70 all. it can only do so much though if receivers are already running sub 4.4.

And I feel like that’s what we’re seeing at this moment. Last game we had a de (while in tunnel vision) stop his rush & react to the pass on a PA attempt and that’s when I started thinking we went too aware, too quick.

Offensively, we can’t run block to save our life (which is where all our points are…) yet we’re somehow putting up yards, while our pass protection is ridiculously good (I mean if you saw the investment numbers, whatever the level above elite is - they’re at) and we can’t do poop in the pass game. Don’t get me started on how I’ve been scammed by lead block either

Snap awareness though, is so elite. So not all awareness has been meh, but still touch and go on the impact of some of the others for us.

Originally posted by dredgar
just curious, what makes you think man or zone awareness are only slightly important?

Best zone defenses always have zone awareness over 80 everywhere. Guys that run zone have seen first hand their pass defense is okay until they get to about 80 then they start seeing players jumping at passes and covering guys better.



only slightly as in being lumped in as 'the best stats in the game' it's important to have high, but even 80 kinda feels like a waste with how good 70 reacts and while it's cheap to invest in, it can be a trap in how cheap it is when you put more and more into it provided the benefits start becoming less prevalent as you go beyond that point. Same with rushing aware, really good but can be a trap in terms of investment early in spite of how cheap it is overall.

But pursuit can safely be pinged as high as you can get it, the benefits are only more prevalent as you approach 100.



Man awareness is actually the worst among what we've been talking about here - reaction time on the ball is not noticeably improved and even at 90+ your player just goes for the tackle at times instead of even trying to spot the ball or even make a play on it. You're much better off raising cover tech and deflection.

High man awareness seems smart until you get to Vet and WRs make them look stupid. Always used to push it to 95ish when we were based man blitz (as well as 70ish cov tech) and Raid is right; the higher you go, the more you realize you could’ve redistributed a lot of points.

Again, won’t really matter though once they’re burnt. Learned that the hard way (even CiT is still deadly so whatever the bases for that was before it was modified had to have been crazy) on the last run.

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/11796/234398

See what I mean? Now that pass blocking is actually viable, all you need is some time + routes with a decent cut.

High safeties consistently fail awareness checks based on what I’ve been seeing from us and our opponents, and separation is easier to create. Extra hold for a second or two & the QB has easy walk-in score options across the field.

https://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/11796/234423

Early in the second and already the 4th or 5th awareness malfunction (from this side alone!!). Again, they’re all across the field & it’s really shitty to me because no one’s to blame but us for investing so much in crap skills

Performance has fallen off a cliff tremendously to say the least. Rest of the game we kept screwing up, but fortunately we won from a few awareness mishaps our opponents made.

Moral of the story - awareness constantly affects us all, so why isn’t it noticeably better at the highest levels?

Regardless of what anyone else things or says.

I can confirm for you, the top teams all invest in awareness on defense to at least 80 at minimum. Thats the best defenses in the game doing this.

Originally posted by dredgar
Regardless of what anyone else things or says.

I can confirm for you, the top teams all invest in awareness on defense to at least 80 at minimum. Thats the best defenses in the game doing this.

No disrespect Dred, but I often feel like you contribute minimally to discussions.

Yes, it’s good information at time - but regurgitation is annoying. Whenever there’s actual discourse I’d like certain agents to step outside of their mindsets or not engage instead of killing it.

No one is talking about top teams etc etc. This is why people get pissed - because whenever a conversation is started it’s always about the “top teams”. I don’t care who’s using awareness, I care about the usefulness.

If I put a 100 snap awareness, 100 sprint, and 100 quickness (throw in 50 min balance) WR vs a 100 awareness DB I promise you there will be multiple awareness fails on the back end consistently. As we get to Vet, I’m worried that defenses will be fun to watch up front and in the middle, but fail frequently on the back end (as many of the top highlights have shown the last few weeks).

Carrying awareness & blocking are whatever. Blocking overall is looking so much better & HBs can kick ass without much awareness. Defenses though? As you said, we’re supposed to be incentivized to be highly aware. Literally no one is saying that.

We’re saying the return is minimal, and it makes you wonder where else you could invest those points. Because in reality (as it stands), yes you can cap at 70 (still high pursuit though) and get away with it depending on your physicals & SAs. You’d honestly need it - we’re in sophomore & some offensive players are already in the 4.2s. As a defense, it just seems like that super high investment incentive is not as visible. At least not consistently enough.