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knaim
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Appreciate any help!

Laser Arm
Quick Release
Natural Leader
Hard Count??


Edited by knaim on Feb 2, 2023 13:33:11
 
RyanCane26
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Football Genius
OT Killer

NOT Hard Count
Edited by RyanCane26 on Feb 2, 2023 13:58:02
 
WiSeIVIaN
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Originally posted by RyanCane26
Football Genius
OT Killer

NOT Hard Count


I never win WL so people should listen to you over me, but I still for the life of me can't understand why people think ot killer isn't garbage.
 
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I like laser arm, football genius, hail marry, quick release as the big 4. Tho maybe quick release isn't worth it, hard to gauge.

5th VA I'm generally a fan of hoac if you think you'll make the playoffs.
 
King of Bling
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
I never win WL ...


'nuff said
 
reddogrw
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
I like laser arm, football genius, hail marry, quick release as the big 4. Tho maybe quick release isn't worth it, hard to gauge.

5th VA I'm generally a fan of hoac if you think you'll make the playoffs.


if you have over 100 natural vision, do you really need to add FG?
 
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Originally posted by King of Bling
'nuff said


hmm - did not know Mauler was managing this account
 
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
I never win WL so people should listen to you over me, but I still for the life of me can't understand why people think ot killer isn't garbage.


5% bonus to all attributes in final minute or three of a one score game where you will be primarily passing seems p good for not much investment

Originally posted by reddogrw
if you have over 100 natural vision, do you really need to add FG?


Need it, probably not, but at ~7.5 bonus to vision at that level is the equivalent of what like 150 SPs? Pretty good ROI.
 
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Originally posted by RyanCane26
Football Genius
OT Killer

NOT Hard Count


How many VA's in OTK if you don't mind me asking?
 
reddogrw
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I think

Laser Arm
Hail Mary
Quick Release

are generally accepted

other legit options

Football Genius (maybe overkill, maybe not)
HOAC - a cheap way to add 20-30 confidence for the playoffs
OTKiller - 12 here gives you the bonus for the final 4 minutes of the 4th quarter plus all OT - in WL many games are decided here

the "some love it, some hate it" category
Clutch
Natural Leader
Slow Starter

not worth it universally from what I have seen
Hard Count
Scrambler
Edited by reddogrw on Feb 3, 2023 10:23:57
 
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Originally posted by henne
How many VA's in OTK if you don't mind me asking?


For a QB I either do 1, 6 or 11/12 (whatevers left at end) usually the 11/12
 
Kenshinzen
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1 Slow Starter, 11 OTK and the rest what red said.
 
WiSeIVIaN
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Originally posted by King of Bling
'nuff said


LOL. Go fuck yourself KoB.

Remember the fake "my son took off my equipment when my player played against my own team in the playoffs, not me" cheating scandel? Petridge Farms remembers that bullshit.

Makes sense you'd team up with Mauler to run your team. Similar values and levels of class.
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
if you have over 100 natural vision, do you really need to add FG?


I think it's weird people think every attribute except throwing people ask "does he have the minimum needed" on qbs.

Vision helps accuracy, progressions, pump fakes, and is #2 on the pass quality roll. I don't see how you are getting more bang for your buck than 8 vision for 15 vp's.
 
reddogrw
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
I think it's weird people think every attribute except throwing people ask "does he have the minimum needed" on qbs.

Vision helps accuracy, progressions, pump fakes, and is #2 on the pass quality roll. I don't see how you are getting more bang for your buck than 8 vision for 15 vp's.


bang for your buck

15 VP in Throwing = +8 in Throwing

15 VP in Hail Mary = +15-16 more Throwing & +13-14 more Strength on throws over 25 yards

15 VP in Quick Release = not really quantifiable but generally accepted to be good

15 VP in Football Genius = +7-8 in Vision

15 VP in HOAC = +30 Confidence for the playoffs

15 VP in OTK = +5% to all attributes for the last 5:20 of the 4th quarter and any OT

all are good

is 30 confidence > or < than 7-8 vision?

How about OTK for all those games decided late in the 4th quarter?

to me, these are the 6th best options - you could even split your 72 VP (max in plateau) across all 6 - 12 in each

do you dabble in the other 3 that people either love or hate? Clutch, Slow Starter and Natural Leader?
 
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