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Tomcic
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Make it National Pro East / National Pro West or North/South.
Let both CCG finalists promote to WL.

Seeing many empty rosters in pro leagues is not fun tbh.

 
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Dr. E
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Really no downside since everyone else can play in reg pro. Still, I'd prefer if we could just build pro dots.
 
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Originally posted by Tomcic
Make it National Pro East / National Pro West or North/South.
Let both CCG finalists promote to WL.

Seeing many empty rosters in pro leagues is not fun tbh.



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Originally posted by Dr. E
Really no downside since everyone else can play in reg pro. Still, I'd prefer if we could just build pro dots.


Yes, true that. But at least league re-allignment shouldn't take much effort compared to insta-dots
 
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Originally posted by Dr. E
Really no downside since everyone else can play in reg pro. Still, I'd prefer if we could just build pro dots.


Originally posted by Tomcic
Yes, true that. But at least league re-allignment shouldn't take much effort compared to insta-dots


Insta dots will never happen, bort already said that even if he wanted to (which he doesn't) that it would take to much effort to do that as he would have overhaul basically every aspect of the game.

Could see the pro leagues going from 4-2 but does bort even want to do that!
 
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Tomcic
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I see two options tbh:

1) either reduce the Pro leagues from 4 to 2 and let the finalist out of the CCG promote to WL (same as the old league structure, where both finalists made WL)
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2) Get rid of WL and Pro tourney. Put an emphasis on the 4 Pro Leagues and let the 4 league champions play it out in a tourney-format. This way everyone gets a fair shot at the grand price and people don't waste Pro seasons if they demote from WL and have a chance to re-group the season after and STILL win the big price.


WL title (seeding based on seeding within Pro League, record, points allowed etc):

European Pro League Champ
North American Pro League Champ
Pacific Pro League Champ
South Atlantic Pro League Champ

Schedule is set up this way at the moment:

Day32 – last regular season game
Day33 – GLB Tourney finale, 3rd place game
Day34 – Day off
Day35 – Day off
Day36 – First Round playoffs (Pro/WL)
Day38 – Conference CCG (Pro/WL)
Day40 – League CCG (Pro/WL)

In Option 2, there need to be 5 games scheduled within 8 days.
Day32 – last regular season game
Day33 – Pro League Playoffs, 1st Round
Day34 – Pro League Playoffs, Conference CCG
Day36 – Pro League Playoffs, League CCG
Day38 – WL – Semis
- League champion highest seed (1) vs League Champion lowest seed (4)
- League champion higher remaining seed (2) vs League Champion lower seed (3)
Home games for seed 1 and 2

Day40 – WL – Finale
- Winner Semi 1 vs. Winner Semi 2
Home game for the higher seed.

Maybe this is one thing to think about for season 100, but this would give all people an extra motivation to stay around longer in Pro leagues and to re-start after 2-3 seasons if they failed to make WL.
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This would be awesome, no wasted seasons in pro - as well as a chance for all teams in pro to "hone their skills" against the best teams instead of popping up into WL, getting hammered & that's it.
 
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Originally posted by Tomcic

In Option 2, there need to be 5 games scheduled within 8 days.
Day32 – last regular season game
Day33 – Pro League Playoffs, 1st Round
Day34 – Pro League Playoffs, Conference CCG
Day36 – Pro League Playoffs, League CCG



And for the people mentioning that the games Day33 and Day34 are close by and may cause problems for preparation:
those matchups are teams you certainly faced minimum two times in regular seasons, so there shall have an edge knowing the opposing team already. Everything out-of-conference or out-of-league has a 1 day break before the actual game.
 
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Or continue the season until day 42.

At this stage, with no sim changes, reducing the off season from 8 days to 6 days should not be a huge deal.

However there would still be loads of blow out games with how much of a waste land Pro is

https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5325840&page=1#50060631

Reducing from 4 to 2 is a significantly better option imo.

Even WL is way less competitive than ever before - the best teams cruise through the WL regular season with base AIs so diluting the top talent into 4 different leagues is not the answer for me.

 
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Originally posted by lexden11
Or continue the season until day 42.

At this stage, with no sim changes, reducing the off season from 8 days to 6 days should not be a huge deal.

However there would still be loads of blow out games with how much of a waste land Pro is

https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5325840&page=1#50060631

Reducing from 4 to 2 is a significantly better option imo.

Even WL is way less competitive than ever before - the best teams cruise through the WL regular season with base AIs so diluting the top talent into 4 different leagues is not the answer for me.



Yes, I am fine with either option. Goal shall be to reduce the number of blowouts and make the Pro leagues more competitive again.
 
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Originally posted by SeattleNiner
This would be awesome, no wasted seasons in pro - as well as a chance for all teams in pro to "hone their skills" against the best teams instead of popping up into WL, getting hammered & that's it.


 
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My time having my own teams in the WL will come to an end in about a year or so, but I still think #1 is by far the best option.
 
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I can't believe someone else suggested ending WL.

Reg Pro has always been a wasted season. Just give 2 free levels at the end of semi pro, to go from 68 to 70 instead of wasting a whole season. Like "Congrats, you made it. Here's a little gift for sticking with it this long."

At the start of the Pro season, just unlock all boosts, from 70 to 73, 73 to 76, and 76 to 79. Give the 25 SP bonus as usual.

WL became obsolete when tournaments were invented. The original pitch was to settle the beefs and shit talking across the Natty Pro leagues. Then it became it's own beast, and nothing else mattered.

It should just be the World League tournament. Just make it double elimination or something, so that it takes up approximately 40 days somehow, like every other odd day or something.

 
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