Warrior General Games

Originally posted by RyanCane26
I think you may be overly concerned about the morale death spiral. I think most interceptions are due to throwing in to double, triple coverage (whether it’s first or fifth), not due to being in the morale dumps

https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/game.pl?game_id=3088740 Asau’s QB’s morale was still mid 90s when he threw his 5th INT of the game


I have noticed that on the multiple INT games as well

Originally posted by RyanCane26
I think you may be overly concerned about the morale death spiral. I think most interceptions are due to throwing in to double, triple coverage (whether it’s first or fifth), not due to being in the morale dumps

https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/game.pl?game_id=3088740 Asau’s QB’s morale was still mid 90s when he threw his 5th INT of the game


Originally posted by reddogrw
I have noticed that on the multiple INT games as well

Well this makes me feel like maybe I'm crazy then. Thanks!

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Well this makes me feel like maybe I'm crazy then. Thanks!



well, you have been playing an online Football game for many years so.....

I resemble that remark.

wait huh?

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Well this makes me feel like maybe I'm crazy then. Thanks!



I vaguely recall seeing that Confidence was pressure resistance, and therefore had a large impact on accuracy. Like the sum of all pass rushers are applying X pressure on you, and your Confidence reduced the effect that X pressure had on your accuracy by Y amount.

I don't think that was a q&a though... so I could be completely crazy. that could be 4th hand information really. maybe when Catch did that huge Confidence study in the test forum...?

been a while

did manage to find this... not exactly what i was thinking, https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5040704&page=2#46884850
July 9, 2012 Question Are bad passes and bad throws when no hurry occurs (still pretty frequent) just a random thing that happens, or is it due to the proximity of the defender still (basically still a hurry but not registering as a hurry in the text)?
Answer Bad passes occur when the QB fails a roll between the incoming pressure score and his confidence/pq/pocket presence abilities. A bad throw can occur with no hurry just due to a terrible roll or pressure from a guy who's not close enough to register a hurry stat.

Thanks TJ!

The comment I believe means what you originally thought it means. Pressure effects pass quality, and confidence is among the roll to combat the effect of pressure on pass quality.

I'm once again confident in confidence!

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Thanks TJ!

The comment I believe means what you originally thought it means. Pressure effects pass quality, and confidence is among the roll to combat the effect of pressure on pass quality.

I'm once again confident in confidence!

the question is.....by how much?

Originally posted by reddogrw
the question is.....by how much?

IMHO? Anything below 80 is crap. 80 to 90 is just ok (yes... I know my current builds are in that range but a health issue caused major damage to many of my builds because I couldn't switch off training certain skills in time so some things aren't wheer I wanted them now). 90+ is best. I've seen a few with 100 or more but I'm not sure the difference between 90+ and 100 is enough to warrant the extra SP's or training there. 95 is generally my target number.

Originally posted by reddogrw
the question is.....by how much?

That's the 50 million dollar question, right? Especially now that basically every team uses a 3 or even 2 man rush in most passing situations. Is it really about pressure on the QB anymore?

A 2 man rush is stupidly effective considering it's a 5 on 2, and then Ballhawk gets 3 guys around the ball by the time it gets there.

Having a QB with 50 Confidence might be worth a shot.

There's probably money to be made by playing with "Throw Away" setting, instead of risking unscripted passes into triple coverage.

30 confidence qb in WL threw 0 tds and 12 int in two playoff games s90/s91 fwiw. I really don't think less confidence than meta is the solution here.

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
30 confidence qb in WL threw 0 tds and 12 int in two playoff games s90/s91 fwiw. I really don't think less confidence than meta is the solution here.

Almost all of them were in double+ coverage. The two that you could consider not double coverage, I doubt less strength and more confidence would have helped.

Originally posted by RyanCane26
Almost all of them were in double+ coverage. The two that you could consider not double coverage, I doubt less strength and more confidence would have helped.
The two I'm referencing:
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=3088377&pbp_id=1087948 Deep pass over the middle, 2nd corner was late to get there
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=3088377&pbp_id=1088198 Out routes are notoriously susceptible to INTs .. Both situations could have benefited from more strength+pass distance equip... imo of course

Originally posted by RyanCane26
Almost all of them were in double+ coverage. The two that you could consider not double coverage, I doubt less strength and more confidence would have helped.

I mean, we don't know that though, right?

Every double coverage pass in the game isn't picked off. If the qb got pressured his pass quality went down (regardless of number of defenders near the ball) and made an int more likely, no?

Every play, per bort, there is a sort of pressure score that effects pass quality. So while confidence isn't in the pass quality roll, it basically is since it's a modifier to the pressure roll which effects pass quality roll.

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
I mean, we don't know that though, right?



Even if we're not sure that more would have helped, I"m fairly certain that less would not have

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
30 confidence qb in WL threw 0 tds and 12 int in two playoff games s90/s91 fwiw. I really don't think less confidence than meta is the solution here.

And the same QB carved my defense up in s89 throwing to a single covered TE often