Originally posted by reddogrw
of those 4 choices, option 2 - going past 12 is a waste for SA's - better to use those resources elsewhere
Thanks. I agree option 2 is the most "meta/safe", not that I'll necessarily go that route.
Does anyone else find it weird that for some reason the whole game take's a bort quotes that were made at a time when favored SA's didn't exist and when you couldn't get an SA past 15 as gospel? Everything after that is conjecture and maybe some catch22 (who never saw the code) quote about "large diminishing returns after 12 or 13". To my knowledge bort never said something is worthless past 13, he just said "probably not worth it", but we have no context for what that actually means.
The fact is, that 16th point of tight spiral does SOMETHING. and that something is multiplied by the favored SA bonus (maybe +30%, who knows?), and then is multipled by PQ% in the pass quality roll. So lets say the 16th point in a SA is only worth 20% as much as the 10th point. 1*10%*130%*127.75% = 33.2% of each point from lvl 1-10.
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SA's over 10
– Originally posted by Bort
SA at 11 works fine. It's currently just impossible to get it higher, since you can only get a natural 10, and a +1 from your custom equipment. The new equipment stuff will allow you to get some more +1's, though, so you could theoretically get up to 15.
– Originally posted by Bort
Yeah they'd be pretty good, but not a huge ton better than 11 really, based on the way that most of them work. Yes it would take a while to get something to lv 15, not to mention all the SP's you have to spend to get to lv 10 naturally!
– Originally posted by Bort
Sorta; there's just some special stuff in there for stuff greater than 10 to keep things from getting horribly broken (like autofake every time or something LOL)
of those 4 choices, option 2 - going past 12 is a waste for SA's - better to use those resources elsewhere
Thanks. I agree option 2 is the most "meta/safe", not that I'll necessarily go that route.
Does anyone else find it weird that for some reason the whole game take's a bort quotes that were made at a time when favored SA's didn't exist and when you couldn't get an SA past 15 as gospel? Everything after that is conjecture and maybe some catch22 (who never saw the code) quote about "large diminishing returns after 12 or 13". To my knowledge bort never said something is worthless past 13, he just said "probably not worth it", but we have no context for what that actually means.
The fact is, that 16th point of tight spiral does SOMETHING. and that something is multiplied by the favored SA bonus (maybe +30%, who knows?), and then is multipled by PQ% in the pass quality roll. So lets say the 16th point in a SA is only worth 20% as much as the 10th point. 1*10%*130%*127.75% = 33.2% of each point from lvl 1-10.
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SA's over 10
– Originally posted by Bort
SA at 11 works fine. It's currently just impossible to get it higher, since you can only get a natural 10, and a +1 from your custom equipment. The new equipment stuff will allow you to get some more +1's, though, so you could theoretically get up to 15.
– Originally posted by Bort
Yeah they'd be pretty good, but not a huge ton better than 11 really, based on the way that most of them work. Yes it would take a while to get something to lv 15, not to mention all the SP's you have to spend to get to lv 10 naturally!
– Originally posted by Bort
Sorta; there's just some special stuff in there for stuff greater than 10 to keep things from getting horribly broken (like autofake every time or something LOL)