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Perfect pocket, about 5 yards in distance between the DB and WR.

Not a bad pass either, things like this barely happen but last season I have seen it quite a bit, what in the game causes this to happen?
 
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Have to remember even though he was wide open 50+ yd passes are still lower percentage throws. Pass Quality is effected negatively the longer the throw.. Does he have Pass Distance AEQ?
 
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Originally posted by RyanCane26
Have to remember even though he was wide open 50+ yd passes are still lower percentage throws. Pass Quality is effected negatively the longer the throw.. Does he have Pass Distance AEQ?


That's a good point, can't believe I didn't even bother to take that into thought.
The QB did have a single piece of each.
To be fair it was only a 30-yard throw at that. That was just one of the few replays I could find atm, it happened quite a few times.
 
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Originally posted by 88Spam
That's a good point, can't believe I didn't even bother to take that into thought.
The QB did have a single piece of each.
To be fair it was only a 30-yard throw at that. That was just one of the few replays I could find atm, it happened quite a few times.


only 1 piece of PQ%? that's not enough
 
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Just because there isn’t a hurry or other message about the pass doesn’t mean the pass quality didn’t take a hit. Bort commented on that point in one of his chats.
 
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Originally posted by 88Spam
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=3070606&pbp_id=514830

Perfect pocket, about 5 yards in distance between the DB and WR.

Not a bad pass either, things like this barely happen but last season I have seen it quite a bit, what in the game causes this to happen?


That's some really good pass protection right there
 
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Originally posted by 88Spam
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=3070606&pbp_id=514830

Perfect pocket, about 5 yards in distance between the DB and WR.

Not a bad pass either, things like this barely happen but last season I have seen it quite a bit, what in the game causes this to happen?


Watch any NFL game and you'll see this happen. Sometimes a QB just overthrows a wide-open WR. It happens.
 
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Originally posted by Novus
Watch any NFL game and you'll see this happen. Sometimes a QB just overthrows a wide-open WR. It happens.


Nah I understand, I'm not surprised that it happened. I just wanted to know what in the games mechanics/coding would cause this to happen. Can't exactly compare a virtual game to real life, as it could be a number of things that happened irl. Here I see it was a PQ issue.

Originally posted by reddogrw
only 1 piece of PQ%? that's not enough


I could be wrong, I don't remember. Was an inactive agent.
 
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Originally posted by 88Spam
Nah I understand, I'm not surprised that it happened. I just wanted to know what in the games mechanics/coding would cause this to happen. Can't exactly compare a virtual game to real life, as it could be a number of things that happened irl. Here I see it was a PQ issue.


Okay, gotcha. I guess I've just seen too many threads like this over the years where someone insists something shouldn't happen in GLB because it never happens in real life football, and I immediately think of multiple real-life examples of that exact thing happening. Glad that's not where you were going with it.

(And yeah, as I often say, "It's not football. It's dotball." But dotball is also supposed to be a reasonable simulation of football, so drawing connections between dotball and football isn't entirely unreasonable either.)

Yeah, it could be a Pass Quality issue. As to what caused the Pass Quality issue, it could very well be a build or Eq issue... or he could've rolled the GLB equivalent of snake-eyes on his pass-quality roll on that one throw. Sometimes a great build can just have terrible luck for a single play. But if he's consistently over-throwing open receivers time after time after time, then yeah, that makes it less likely to be bad luck and more likely to be a build problem.
 
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Is it a QB issue or a Receiver issue?
The WR's completion% fell off markedly during the playoffs.
Another PQ piece wouldn't hurt but with pass protection like that I bet he doesn't have Hail Mary.
If he does then its just odds.
 
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Originally posted by Mrs Chief C
Is it a QB issue or a Receiver issue?
The WR's completion% fell off markedly during the playoffs.
Another PQ piece wouldn't hurt but with pass protection like that I bet he doesn't have Hail Mary.
If he does then its just odds.


Well, I'd like to think I built my WR pretty meta ish.
I didn't build him exactly where I wanted him, but he still meets thresholds.
157spd
89 agi
88 CTCH

2 Catch balls/ 1 fake.

Honestly, I can't remember his QBs build so I can't say for sure.
 
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Originally posted by RyanCane26
Have to remember even though he was wide open 50+ yd passes are still lower percentage throws. Pass Quality is effected negatively the longer the throw.. Does he have Pass Distance AEQ?


This ^^^. Even with 2 PQ pieces it's quite possible (the play outcome). If you ask good DC's (at least those I've gone up against) it's why I think they concentrate on the short/medium throws far more than the bombs. Bombs are nice when they happen but I believe Bort nerfed long passing pretty hard. I've had good QB's with 2 PQ AND 2 PD pieces and you still don't see a lot of deep connections. Sometimes that's coverage but even on open throws like yours I see plenty of misses and drops. I also tend to see more diving and jump catches on the longer throws. It's the penalties to accuracy/catching applied the longer the yardage that causes it. You'll see the exact same thing on FG tries. Even top kickers miss far more 50+ yarders than they do 49 or less and it's because of the accuracy penalties applied for longer distances. I think they really spike upwards at a certain number. If you were to graph it from short to long (range throws/FG tries) it would start off flat then begin to curve up around 10 yards... then bend sharply upwards around 15-20... then shoot up hard after 25+. Think about it... how many 50+ yard "in the air" throws have you even seen? If the QB isn't under duress by that time and could chuck it that deep the accuracy would be atrocious. Not saying they're not attempted or completed... just that if you added all of them up the % of completions would seriously favor passes under 20 yards.
Edited by Theo Wizzago on Dec 26, 2021 13:38:24
 
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Looks like a slow WR as well
 
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Originally posted by Sonic
Looks like a slow WR as well


I’ve seen 150-154 speed run down deep balls.
He’s not 160 speed like I planned on him being but it’s plenty of WL wrs with less speed then what he has.
That could of been the issue this time, but it’s a rare occasion.
 
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