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Bash E. Bull
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It definitely says in the description that it only works while playing WR or TE, but I seem to recall a discussion stating that was changed at some point, but I can't find it. Did that change, or is it confirmed this VA doesn't work for RBs? It'd be great for scatback HBs and FBs if it did
 
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WR/TE only
 
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Originally posted by RyanCane26
WR/TE only


 
Bash E. Bull
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thanks to yous

lol, I guess I can look at this two ways. On the one hand because of my stupid mistake my FB has basically wasted 15 VA his entire career (not completely wasted, as he does get a play in at TE every few games or so, and did have a vital 1st down converting catch in the play-offs as a TE to help us make it to WL, so maybe it was worth it for that alone) but on the other hand, he's already very good and now upon entering WL he gets 15 more VA to spend, and I guess every little bit helps especially when you gotta face the toughest of the tough every game. I'm going to switch it to something that actually works when playing fullback so that it may provide a bonus every game, and not be wasted like 98% of the time.
 
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I feel like in a round about way YAC Attack could give some of the KL protection I though he was getting from PR. I mean, no tackle, no KL... and actually I thought PR was working really well to avoid KLs, so maybe he just doesn't need anything specifically for KL, which there isn't regardless. I always thought YAC Attack seemed useless, because "what good is one second worth" or something along those lines- but I'm looking at just how many tackles do occur within a second of the reception, and actually it seems like a situation that will come into play quite often. I just hope it works for him lol. Is there another VA for scat back FBs that I'm not thinking of?
 
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Originally posted by Bash E. Bull
I feel like in a round about way YAC Attack could give some of the KL protection I though he was getting from PR. I mean, no tackle, no KL... and actually I thought PR was working really well to avoid KLs, so maybe he just doesn't need anything specifically for KL, which there isn't regardless. I always thought YAC Attack seemed useless, because "what good is one second worth" or something along those lines- but I'm looking at just how many tackles do occur within a second of the reception, and actually it seems like a situation that will come into play quite often. I just hope it works for him lol. Is there another VA for scat back FBs that I'm not thinking of?


realize that if you use Slippery or Bruiser along with YAC, you can only max out BT% from VA's at 75% - extra VA points that take the % higher are worthless
 
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Wow, I didn't realize the BT% bonus for YAC is 5%- thanks for pointing that out to me. I never used that particular VA before but I think I'll give it a try. Then I still will have 6 more VA to spend and maybe I can get some Mr. Reliable for that 3rd down bonus after all
 
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Fwiw... There's a Bort quote buried in the Q&A, that says YAC attack is calculated differently because it fires temporarily.

Basically it takes whatever your usual total is and modifies it for those ticks after a catch. It doesn't just add a %.
 
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Originally posted by TJ Spikes
Fwiw... There's a Bort quote buried in the Q&A, that says YAC attack is calculated differently because it fires temporarily.

Basically it takes whatever your usual total is and modifies it for those ticks after a catch. It doesn't just add a %.


Wait so does that mean the usual VA stacking rules don't apply? Where is this quote? Now I'm totally confused...
 
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I vaguely recall it being in one of the more recent ones, not in the old ones with a neat list.
 
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https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5029135&page=5#46752639

 
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all i know is i never go past 9 for yac
 
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Originally posted by TJ Spikes
I vaguely recall it being in one of the more recent ones, not in the old ones with a neat list.


Same deal for Bruiser + SYMon. You can stack them to 90% BTkl, since Bruiser is always on, and SYMon is situational (behind LoS, inside run only) Never tried it personally, feels hard to justify the opportunity cost, unless I was running behind an all CPU OL or something.
 
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
all i know is i never go past 9 for yac


That's probably safe. There's really no way to tell if the game actually runs the way Bort thought it did.

 
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Now, I can't figure that out. If, unlike the bonuses which are usually additive, the YAC is multiplicative and is calculated at a different time, then how could it stack and have those usual rules apply when the thing its supposed to stack with has already been factored in? It sounds like at that point its two entirely different parts of the equation, so what is it stacking with? For what its worth, he specifically said it does stack... but then when he explained it it really doesn't sound like it does but maybe i'm missing something

what frustrates me though, the question specifically asked if you have 15 Slippery, is 15 YAC going to be better than 9 YAC or will it be the same, and Bort didn't answer that. That's all we really needed to know

sorry to keep editing this but I'm holding out hope that someone knows the answer lol. I put 9 VA into YAC but I still have 6 more and I'll wait until the season starts to see if anyone has this elusive answer. If noone knows, I'll probably just dump those 6 VA into mr. reliable or something
Edited by Bash E. Bull on Sep 8, 2021 11:48:28
Edited by Bash E. Bull on Sep 8, 2021 11:44:37
 
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