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Originally posted by jmarter
The rankings just appear to be commercials in this thread.



Nah, I shouldn't be using this thread like this. I know how much work goes into rankings like this because I've done them before, and I know how annoyed I'd be if someone hijacked my rankings thread to argue with someone who doesn't even have a team in the league. My apologies for that.
 
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Originally posted by Kenshinzen
I'll share some words of wisdom.

"The higher you stand above modesty, the easier it becomes to lose your footing."

*bow*


The deepness just got real.XD
 
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Originally posted by Jeff Williams
You win some; you lose some. Just don't get beat by the game


Zen Master speaketh
 
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Originally posted by jmarter
Back on track, preseason is wrapped up. So, now that I at least know most of the teams, here's a guess at the preseason ranking for all non-CPU teams in Pro level. Unless of course if I missed someone.

1. Asau Golden Eagles SAPL
2. Monster EPL
3. Cherokee Nation SAPL
4. Adriatic Sea Wasps EPL
5. Nemesis EPL
6. FFG NAPL
7. Houston Gamblers EPL
8. Alabama NAPL
9. Dawghouse EPL
10. Austin Dawgs NAPL
11. West LA NAPL
12. Austin Slackers PPL
13. Hawaiian Kings PPL
14. Jersey Showboats NAPL
15. Creepers PPL
16. NJ Mets PPL
17. ROADFROGS EPL
18. Auburn PPL
19. STALINGRAD PPL
20. Insanity SAPL
21. Comets PPL
22. ChiTown Bears EPL
23. Corruption SAPL
24. Palookas SAPL
25. Chaos NAPL
26. River Valley NAPL
27. Ho Chi Mean EPL
28. WAR HAMMER
29. Diamond Dogs
30. Amsterdam NAPL
31. Mammoths SAPL
32. Crossfire NAPL
33. Gofers NAPL


Well, after 2 weeks in league play there has only been one upset according to these rankings, so it seems fairly accurate so far as that goes. There are just a few things I might debate:

Nemesis lost badly to Houston. That is the one upset so far- it could indicate that Nemesis is too high in the rankings.

You forgot the Trash Pandas in NA Pro. I don't think that really affects the rankings greatly.

I still think the NA Pro teams overall are under ranked. This might be my own unconscious bias, but non-league results, for what that is worth, seems to bare that out. Or is it bear that out? Idk 🐻but we have a lot of wildlife up in here
 
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2 games in the books. Top 4 stay the same, may take some tournament action for the other leagues to move up with those SAPL and EPL powerhouses.

1. Asau Golden Eagles SAPL
2. Monster EPL
3. Cherokee Nation SAPL
4. Adriatic Sea Wasps EPL
5. Houston Gamblers EPL
6. FFG NAPL
7. Alabama NAPL
8. Austin Dawgs NAPL
9. Dawghouse EPL
10. West LA NAPL
11. Austin Slackers PPL
12. Hawaiian Kings PPL
13. Nemesis EPL
14. Jersey Showboats NAPL
15. Creepers PPL
16. NJ Mets PPL
17. ROADFROGS EPL
18. Auburn PPL
19. Insanity SAPL
20. ChiTown Bears EPL
21. Chaos NAPL
22. STALINGRAD PPL
23. Comets PPL
24. Corruption SAPL
25. Palookas SAPL
26. River Valley NAPL
27. WAR HAMMER EPL -
28. Ho Chi Mean EPL down?
29. Diamond Dogs PPL -
30. Amsterdam NAPL
31. Mammoths SAPL
32. Crossfire NAPL
33. Gofers NAPL
34. Trash Pandas - NAPL
 
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How is epl rated so high when those teams have yet to play anyone at the Pro level? Also how does Austin move up and FFG stay the same after FFG just dominated them? It doesn't look like you are really taking results into consideration.
 
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I haven't looked at a lot of rosters, but either Adriatic is ranked too high or Pro really sucks.
 
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Pro's don't start until the PO's start. It has been that way for quite some time now.
 
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Originally posted by Mauler
Pro's don't start until the PO's start. It has been that way for quite some time now.


you actually described most of the leagues sadly
 
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1. Asau Golden Eagles SAPL
2. FFG NAPL
3. Monster EPL
4. Cherokee Nation SAPL
5. Alabama NAPL
6. Adriatic Sea Wasps EPL
7. Houston Gamblers EPL
8. Austin Dawgs NAPL
9. Dawghouse EPL
10. West LA NAPL
11. Austin Slackers PPL
12. Hawaiian Kings PPL
13. Nemesis EPL
14. Jersey Showboats NAPL
15. Creepers PPL
16. NJ Mets PPL
17. Amsterdam NAPL
18. ROADFROGS EPL
19. Auburn PPL
20. Insanity SAPL
21. ChiTown Bears EPL
22. Chaos NAPL
23. STALINGRAD PPL
24. Comets PPL
25. Corruption SAPL
26. Palookas SAPL
27. River Valley NAPL
28. WAR HAMMER EPL -
29. Diamond Dogs PPL -
30. Mammoths SAPL
31. Crossfire NAPL
32. Gofers NAPL
33. Trash Pandas - NAPL
34. Ho Chi Mean EPL

I fixed some of the most glaring errors. Not saying it's perfect by any means, but it better reflects results which have already played out. It won't be long until we get information which could make the rankings much more (or less) clear.

But overall, there's still a lot of "give a man a reputation as an early riser and he can sleep until noon" going on, as Mark Twain said. There is going to be a certain level of expectation in any rankings at this point simply due to the fact there really isn't enough actually-relevant information yet available.
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
you actually described most of the leagues sadly


Of course I did as that is what I was getting at. The fact that anyone cares about them at all is somewhat ridiculous in the first place as ranks literally mean nothing.
Edited by Mauler on Jul 20, 2021 09:54:34
 
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The purpose of rankings is not to figure out how the teams are ranked.

The purpose of rankings is to give us all something to talk about.

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Originally posted by Mauler
Of course I did as that is what I was getting at. The fact that anyone cares about them at all is somewhat ridiculous in the first place as ranks literally mean nothing.


Wait, do you mean the rankings mean nothing, or the Pro Leagues don't? Of course the rankings don't- its just something to be interesting and to argue if you disagree. On the other hand, no one can say Pro Leagues mean nothing. 4 teams will advance to WL. Right there that's more something than most of GLB. But as I'm saying this I'm realizing that's probably not what you meant. So, yeah...

Rankings mean nothing but if a team doesn't live up to their rankings (or what they argue it should be) then they look like they shit the bed, and no one wants that, so we better keep burning the midnight oil to make sure that doesn't happen lol
 
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Originally posted by Bash E. Bull

IDK 🐻but we have a lot of wildlife up in here


Originally posted by Novus
The purpose of rankings is not to figure out how the teams are ranked.

The purpose of rankings is to give us all something to talk about.


Ok, so who are the zen masters now
 
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Originally posted by Jeff Williams
Wait, do you mean the rankings mean nothing, or the Pro Leagues don't? Of course the rankings don't- its just something to be interesting and to argue if you disagree. On the other hand, no one can say Pro Leagues mean nothing. 4 teams will advance to WL. Right there that's more something than most of GLB. But as I'm saying this I'm realizing that's probably not what you meant. So, yeah...

Rankings mean nothing but if a team doesn't live up to their rankings (or what they argue it should be) then they look like they shit the bed, and no one wants that, so we better keep burning the midnight oil to make sure that doesn't happen lol


Originally posted by Mauler
Pro's don't start until the PO's start. It has been that way for quite some time now.



he is saying Pros don't start until the playoffs start, and even some of those games will be against CPU's

it is also why most National Pro teams head right back down to National Pro after 1 season in WL - they play mostly crap teams and have a great record because of that

Most of the Pro teams that have recently been able to stay in WL were in fact just added teams of existing WL owners
 
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