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ANumber1Roy
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I'm not trying trying to argue with people over this. If the vaccines work like they say it does your 90 something percent safer and don't need the few people like me taking it.
 
Dr. E
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So you don't even know they had the flu. Were they tested, was it the strain of flu they were vaccinated against? Was it a slight case that would of been worse if they weren't vaccinated. Lots of questions but no real answer, you just chose to believe with no facts.



Originally posted by ANumber1Roy
The source is 20+ odd people tell me they got flu shot and found that they got the flu more often hence me saying weakened immune system.. People,friends,and family are the only source I need. Science community will put whatever information they are told to do.


 
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That's were you are mistaken. The idea of "heard immunity" is to protect those that are medically prohibited from getting vaccinated. Plus and maybe more importantly, to stop the virus from mutating and producing a strain the vaccine doesn't work for, one that may be more deadly. Just look at Brazil, they have one down there that has already done so, and there are other strains of covid like MERS. I think it has a 50% kill ratio, but currently only transmits from animals instead of person to person.

Originally posted by ANumber1Roy
I'm not trying trying to argue with people over this. If the vaccines work like they say it does your 90 something percent safer and don't need the few people like me taking it.


 
Theo Wizzago
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Originally posted by ANumber1Roy
I'm not trying trying to argue with people over this. If the vaccines work like they say it does your 90 something percent safer and don't need the few people like me taking it.


In the end it's a personal choice. Whatever fears or beliefs someone might have vs the fears of catching the virus need be weighed but, along with that is the possibility that you could catch the virus, never know you have it (no symptoms showing), and kill someone else who hasn't gotten vaccinated yet. Of all of that it's the last bit that tilts the balance for me. I do not wish to stand before the almighty on my dying day and be told that I was responsible for the death of someone else... someone I never knew other than one simple passing contact and because I was just either selfish or stubborn to do this one thing.
Again though, the odds are shrinking that that will happen with each passing day as multitudes get their vaccinations. Eventually we hope it will all calm down and return to something resembling normal... barring a new mutant strain popping up and making the vaccinations obsolete. This damn virus is pure evil. What has so many arguing and confused is as follows;
#1, it's related to the common flu virus. Covid is the scientific name for a group of a particular virus strain of which include the common flu and others like that. 19 refers to the variation of that strain of Covid. You can get shots for the flu (vaccines)... or not. It's a choice (usually). I haven't gotten a flu shot in many years. However, you KNOW when you have the flu. It TELLS you with it's symptoms as they hammer you. When you get the Flu you stay home (quarantine). If you absolutely HAD to work and work closely with someone else you would wear a mask (if you have any love for other humans in your heart) if at all possible (90+% of most companies will send you home anyways). Either way you KNOW you have the Flu when you get it so you do the right things and... the right things are well known because the Flu has been around for a long time.
#2, because it's so totally different in it's attack, damage, and how it spreads, Covid 19 has had the scientific community scrambling like crazy to get correct info. We've all seen them say one thing one week... and something else the next. I'm not gonna list all the arguments... just know they're there. This lack of cohesion has caused a lot of confusion, anger, fear, and anything else in between.
#3, politics has gotten waaaaaaaay to involved in management and not enough involved in info, order, and structure so everyone has something POSITIVE to turn to... leaders they can trust (no... this is not a personal attack on the former president... but on government as a whole, including state and sometimes even local). Rather than one voice it's been a cacophony of self serving morons whose main interest is scoring political points rather than working together for the good of everyone. This has made it worse, not better.

This virus is evil for two main reasons. HOW it spreads and HOW it effects people. If it was like the common Flu (except deadlier) there would be no pandemic because we could find and isolate people much easier and faster. I mean we'd know quick... symptoms would always present themselves and tracking would be simple. Isolation of those contacted would be easier. Divide and conquer would be easier. Instead you can get this virus... carry this virus... spread this virus... and NEVER show a single symptom. A sleep-walking serial killer in a sense. That's fucked up. It's why masks (and yes, I hate them... and yes, I wear them). It's why all the arguments (some good... some stupid).

In the end I would fight and die for anyone (in my country) to have the Freedom and the Right to decide the issue of vaccination/no vaccination for THEMSELVES in the same way I do for Abortion rights. They are similar in a way... both are PERSONAL decisions that effect the lives of others but, in the end, are totally an INDIVIDUAL right to the person. I believe not getting the shot is wrong... I believe abortion is wrong... but I believe even more that stripping you of YOUR right to decide for yourself what to do is more important in the end. For anyone that says the 'child' has no advocate but the people do... you're wrong. If I choose not to get vaccinated and my choice kills someone else...what 'voice' did they have? Except to take away MY right to make a choice for myself? And that's the tricky thing in the end. 2 rights can make a wrong. But you have to draw a line somewhere... as close to the middle as possible, I believe.
 
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.Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Rather than one voice it's been a cacophony of self serving morons whose main interest is scoring political points rather than working together for the good of everyone. This has made it worse, not better




Edited by TheBear on Apr 17, 2021 20:38:36
 
PaqMarq11
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i mean masking as political statement is just...dumb

anti-vacc to show you value liberty is just...dumb

religion/politics/personal freedoms can co-exist with science
 
bigtisme
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Originally posted by PaqMarq11

religion/politics/personal freedoms can co-exist with science


covid is a religion....dr fauci is the pope
 
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Originally posted by bigtisme
covid is a religion....dr fauci is the pope


Pope Fauci, huh? What if he isn't Catholic?
 
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covid is a religion....dr fauci is the pope


I heard he has snapchat now! https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-snapchat-covid-vaccine-encourage-young-people-axios-2021-4
 
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Originally posted by PaqMarq11
i mean masking as political statement is just...dumb

anti-vacc to show you value liberty is just...dumb

religion/politics/personal freedoms can co-exist with science


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i got my first vac. second one in two more weeks. i've been vaccinated for everything else possible my whole life and it hasn't killed me yet. i'll take my chances with a vaccine over Covid.
 
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Anyone else wear neck gaiters and feel naked now when they don't have one on? I feel like my neck looks weird.

 
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If it weren't for my job I wouldn't have gotten it. My job has it readily available plus I'm around children who have cancer. I got my 2nd shot yesterday and was pretty sick this morning. First shot made me sick as well.
 
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Got 2nd Pfizer shot today. No issues after 1st shot (exercised that night), no issues to this point (2 hours) after 2nd shot. Am kind of masochistically hoping to feel just a tad under the weather to let me know my immune system is giving a good response. However, if this ends up being my last GLB post ever...you can put me in camp "don't get the shot". Though no one will ever really know (or care) if my disappearance was from a vaccine-related physical death, or a "FINALLY stopped logging in to GLB 10 years after it died" virtual death.
 
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now everyone can prepare for the booster shot in a year, maybe the next after that and so forth.
 
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