User Pass
Home Sign Up Contact Log In
Page:
 
Jandrews
offline
Link
 
Benefits are hard to quantify. Anyone have any data they can point to regarding the Clutch VAs effectiveness?
 
BigRatUno
offline
Link
 
I've used it on kickers, but there's no way to know it's effects.
I wonder if a kicker has the SA Automatic do they conflict?

On the Sticky Hands SA description, it seems it would complement the Clutch VA.
 
Theo Wizzago
Coyote
online
Link
 
There's nothing in the game that can "show" where it fires so what you would have to do is have 2 identical QB's on the same team... one with it and one without... then play about 100 games (50 each) against the same team as opponent... with the exact same AI's and everything else exactly the same. Jot down all the stats for every play and see if the QB with it completed more passes in 3rd and long than the one without it. It's one of several SA's and/or VA's that are that way. Either you believe in it or you don't. GOes for team concepts and coaching philosophies as well. Some teams demand you get it... some coaches hate it... ya just gotta ask first.

Myself, I believe it for certain dots. Wouldn't do a QB (unless RQB) without it. Like it on my kicker as well.
 
Jandrews
offline
Link
 
Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
... what you would have to do is have 2 identical QB's on the same team... one with it and one without... then play about 100 games (50 each) against the same team as opponent... with the exact same AI's and everything else exactly the same. Jot down all the stats for every play and see if the QB with it completed more passes in 3rd and long than the one without it.


What were the results when you conducted your analysis? Just kidding, but if anyone would do it, Theo would!

Rocdog suggested I pose the question in the forums, I'm curious if others have an opinion too. I've asked the agents on both of my CasPro teams' to pick a VA to swap for 10 into Clutch and 5 into Second Wind this offseason.
 
Rocdog21
Sancho
offline
Link
 
Originally posted by Jandrews
What were the results when you conducted your analysis? Just kidding, but if anyone would do it, Theo would!


Well you do have 2 teams...So if this is really what you want to go with, you can have Nassau be the guinea pig since it's their last season, and not do it with GCC and compare.
 
TJ Spikes
offline
Link
 
If it actually works as written, it would be the most powerful VA for just about everyone.

No one has ever had it as a required VA in any build guide ever.

If you assume it's a multiplier like everything else, then if you have a 4% chance to do something, when all the math is done, then this would give you a 7% chance to do it.

If you had a 40% chance to do it, then you'd have a 70% which is great.

If you had an 80% chance to do it, you'd be guaranteed to do it, but you must likely would have done it anyway.

It's most useful on a dot that has a mediocre chance of success. Helmet catch comes to mind. He was like WR5.

Build a mediocre dot, take clutch, and let us know how he does.

 
SeattleNiner
NINERS
offline
Link
 
I remember Bort saying if Clutch showed up on pbp the playback would light up like a Christmas tree. I use it here & there for the last VA, not sure if it does anything or not.
 
Jandrews
offline
Link
 
Originally posted by Rocdog21
Well you do have 2 teams...So if this is really what you want to go with, you can have Nassau be the guinea pig since it's their last season, and not do it with GCC and compare.


That's actually not a bad idea. Two similarly built teams playing against similar competition. That's probably the closest I'm going to get to what Theo proposed.
 
Theo Wizzago
Coyote
online
Link
 
Originally posted by Jandrews
What were the results when you conducted your analysis? Just kidding, but if anyone would do it, Theo would!

Rocdog suggested I pose the question in the forums, I'm curious if others have an opinion too. I've asked the agents on both of my CasPro teams' to pick a VA to swap for 10 into Clutch and 5 into Second Wind this offseason.


Oh hell no. You would have to own both teams, build all the dots, and run all the AI's just to be completely sure of untainted results. I've never been inclined to do the 'one man show' thing. I take my hat off to those that do... it's not only expensive but it's a helluva lot of work. Besides... I prefer the team aspect of playing this game. I play a soccer game where you're a 'one man show' and it's fun but it's much less work than this is so I don't feel dragged down by playing it. The people here, most of them pretty good peeps, keep me in this game for sure.

Now... after saying all that, you might check Catch22's logs because he did a LOT of sh*t like that when he was testing the game out (before leaving BETA). Maybe he checked out the VA's and has a take/input on it. I just know I use it on certain dots and if it works like it says it does then awesome possum. If not... I'll never know but that means I build dots that are more awesome than I think they are.
 
Thom Yorke
offline
Link
 
Get a life
 
88Spam
offline
Link
 
What’s the name of the soccer game Theo?
 
Theo Wizzago
Coyote
online
Link
 
Originally posted by 88Spam
What’s the name of the soccer game Theo?


Matchday11 squad.
 
Theo Wizzago
Coyote
online
Link
 
Originally posted by Thom Yorke
Get a life


Sold it to GLB for fitty flex.
 
NoahWilson
offline
Link
 
Edited by slashxtreme on Mar 19, 2021 14:38:19
 
ProfessionalKop
Gangstalicious
offline
Link
 
sometimes i throw it on dots. havent noticed anything though.
 
Page:
 


You are not logged in. Please log in if you want to post a reply.