User Pass
Home Sign Up Contact Log In
Link
 
Is there any time in a dots life where this is good?
 
Theo Wizzago
Coyote
offline
Link
 
Only for Centers. I've tried it several times to try and get a feel for it because there's not really a good way to see how it works except to check the O-line dots for morale at the end of the previous play... then again at the end of the next play and see if there was a slight increase. TBH, there's so many variables that it's hard to tell but it seems to give morale a slight boost across the line. However, I'm starting to think it's not worth the effort when compared to other SA's in the tree that might be more useful instead of Line General. Especially since the "Field General" that QB's can get gives the same 'morale' boost to the whole team instead of just the O-line. And I'm willing to bet that, knowing Bort's devious mind, that having both Field General and Line General that both will not fire in the same play and therefore you'd get cumulative effect. About everything else get's nerfed down when stacking so I'm betting it's the same here. TBPH, it's all just my best guess based off my notes.
 
TJ Spikes
offline
Link
 
I know I'll be in the minority on this, but D-line general is highly under rated. 50+ confidence, HoaC VA, and D-line general will negate all morale attacks against your D-line in the playoffs when it counts. (Assuming your D-line doesn't suck in the first place)

O-line gen is not worth the effort because defenses aren't actively attacking morale with Pummel, Showboat, and whatever else.

 
Theo Wizzago
Coyote
offline
Link
 
Agree TJ. I figured he was asking about O-Line General so I didn't cover any of the defense General SA's but both of them are pretty good and worth getting (IMHO).
 
Bash E. Bull
offline
Link
 
I like Line General for Cs. At 9 or 10, it seemed to add a point of stamina and morale to all the offensive lineman almost every play. Granted that was with a lot of that Natural Leader VA, but still, that seems pretty useful for a C who is getting 40-50 snaps in a game. This was on plays with a dual threat QB who had very little Field General. I can assume its less useful if all the QBs have that. My thought is, for a 4 AEQ C, You get pancake, 2 +5% HB pieces and the +12% HB CEQ, and what else would you really use the 4 AEQ for? Another HB piece with its effectiveness divided by 8? Some other SA you could probably easily afford to buy with SP? It just seems a good thing to have. Maybe if all the QBs have a ton of FG and it fires every time, then no, but it seems like its easier to get LG on a C than FG on a QB, and to me I'm more worried about the stamina and morale of the O-line than any other offensive player
 
Theo Wizzago
Coyote
offline
Link
 
With QB's it works for all the offense, not just the line... and it works the same as the one for Center. But as you pointed out that you had 9-10 in your Center... you need the same in your QB to get the same results. Supposedly it is also supposed to help with your QB's connection to your receivers therefore also improving your passing attack but that's harder to quantify. With either one, if you really want to use them (the General SA's) then it should be on all dots at that position to get maximum effect because a SA sitting on the bench doesn't help the dots on the field.
 
Theo Wizzago
Coyote
offline
Link
 
Addendum; I don't think the 'General SA's stack so if you have it on both centers and both QB's then only one will work (I think). However, having it on all of those dots means that no matter what you're likely to get at least one of those to fire almost every time.
 
Bash E. Bull
offline
Link
 
Yeah, what I meant was that it seems to me the most important stamina and confidence to buff is the offensive line out of all the offensive players. Obviously FG is better in that it affects all offensive players, but my point was, if FG is lacking (or fails to fire even at a high level) at least LG covers what would seem to be the players for whom it'd be most important to.
 
Bash E. Bull
offline
Link
 
Originally posted by TJ Spikes
I know I'll be in the minority on this, but D-line general is highly under rated. 50+ confidence, HoaC VA, and D-line general will negate all morale attacks against your D-line in the playoffs when it counts. (Assuming your D-line doesn't suck in the first place)

O-line gen is not worth the effort because defenses aren't actively attacking morale with Pummel, Showboat, and whatever else.



Is AoI no longer a thing? I absolutely like to buff with a General SA on offense because of the predominance of AoI. Has that recently changed? Not only that, but blocking seems to be an energy and morale drainer as it is.
 
TJ Spikes
offline
Link
 
Originally posted by Bash E. Bull
Is AoI no longer a thing? I absolutely like to buff with a General SA on offense because of the predominance of AoI. Has that recently changed? Not only that, but blocking seems to be an energy and morale drainer as it is.


Offense: Pummel, Aoi, Power Blocker + Showboat Blocker, ++ Demoralize (when the rQB touches the ball i.e. any QB rush play)

Defense: Aoi vs. The o-line gets Confidence as a +0.5 Major

The difference is that you could build an amazing d-lineman and he's still going to get his morale sucked away. There's too many attacks.

If you build a decent o-lineman, he shouldn't be having morale issues unless the entire team is having morale issues. It won't be due to Aoi.

D-linemen are actively getting attacked by multiple morale drains from multiple opposing players, there's 5 o-linemen; at least 1 defender is always getting double teamed. That doesn't even take into consideration bTEs who are built exactly the same way.

D-linemen get Confidence as a Minor, and have to do other things.

All the o-line does is block.

Even if the morale losses were somehow equivalent, the d-line still attempts tackles. Morale loss impacts their play more, and leads to downward spirals quicker.

I suppose, in theory, an o-line Gen C isn't a bad thing to have. I just don't think it's necessary to chase it. Since most Cs are run blockers, it's a pretty big reach.

 
AlBarsch
offline
Link
 
Originally posted by Bash E. Bull
Is AoI no longer a thing? I absolutely like to buff with a General SA on offense because of the predominance of AoI. Has that recently changed? Not only that, but blocking seems to be an energy and morale drainer as it is.


This. Stack w/ Natural Leader VA - centers only
Edited by AlBarsch on Dec 18, 2020 18:47:18
 


You are not logged in. Please login if you want to post a reply.