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mkeane2
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I have a really good question for everyone!

What and when is pressured situations ?

I think I got information about this but I never knew if it was true or followed it up enough even though it can be very important.

I think someone said at one point about it counts as pressured situations on certain downs maybe like 3rd and 4th since you really have no room for error otherwise you turn it over or a punt or field goal and I'm wondering is that the case or is it something else or does it have more to it.
 
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3rd/4th & Redzone

Not sure if a QB under pressure triggers it or not(outside of Pass Con). But always wondered
Edited by BoDiddley on Sep 29, 2020 17:49:38
 
mkeane2
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That's good to understand so if you want to be consistent you need them consistency stats which is not easy :L

The question is now what is the effect of pretty much every position of missing out of it since some positions like LB and De and DT which seems like they have a low amount most of the time . Since i know it effects deflecting and not getting faked out but does anything else happen like when they are tackling and stuff ?

Also is that the reason why wide receivers also have drops ? Because they make a mistake and drop the ball ? This topic seems very big and important
Edited by mkeane2 on Sep 29, 2020 18:31:28
Edited by mkeane2 on Sep 29, 2020 18:02:38
 
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Short answer: Nobody knows

I like to think of consistency as a preliminary roll in high pressure situations. Before you make a catch there is a consistency roll that affects your other attributes (like rec hands and CIT). As a result of your consistency, your other rolls may be affected.

Here's a very simplified example of how I might think about it: Say you have 80 rec hands and 60 rec consistency and it's third down. 60% of the time the sim is going to read that your player has 80 rec hands, the other 40% it will read that your player has lower rec hands. The extent of the hit would also be unknown and might also be dependent on your consistency (i.e., higher consistency means less penalty to your rec hands and lower consistency means more volatile penalties).

However, this could be entirely false and the consistency roll is just a roll after hands that determines if you pass the "roll" or fail.

Now, if you're talking about zone drops I don't think anyone has been able to figure out why those occur more frequently.
 
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Since after reading the description of rec consistency it says about ability to catch and secure the ball in pressured situations after reading again i was thinking the secure sounding like a drop if you didn't have it but i'm not so sure since it happens outside of 3/4th down and redzone so unless its a actual stat by itself as well its very hard to tell.

I think the only really way of telling is by someone maxing out receiving hands at one point and rec consistency the other and see if drops still happen


P.s. i don't know what you would describe as a zone drop but would help if i did know since if it is the same as what i saw we might have more to go off
Edited by mkeane2 on Sep 29, 2020 19:11:49
 
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Originally posted by mkeane2
Since after reading the description of rec consistency it says about ability to catch and secure the ball in pressured situations after reading again i was thinking the secure sounding like a drop if you didn't have it but i'm not so sure since it happens outside of 3/4th down and redzone so unless its a actual stat by itself as well its very hard to tell.

I think the only really way of telling is by someone maxing out receiving hands at one point and rec consistency the other and see if drops still happen


P.s. i don't know what you would describe as a zone drop but would help if i did know since if it is the same as what i saw we might have more to go off


I take cues from the Changelogs, and things Corndog says on the forum. In 2016 this was in the changelog - "Increased base values on pass/catch related consistency skills so rookies aren't quite so terrible under pressure (such as every 3rd down)"

Which suggests the effect is ever 3rd down, and likely 4th too. Closeness to goaline was added to pressure also at some point. The effect on red zone conversions was noticeable. This is why TEs with high consistency are so dangerous on those TE flag type 3rd down plays. And why pass defenders need consistency too.
 
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got any clue how it effects the DE LB DT like does it effect tackles and stuff like that since normally most LB DE DT don't have a high consistency
 
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I believe Corndog has said in the past that consistency acts as a bonus to any kind of roll you need to do during pressure situations. Could be catching, deflecting, intercepting, tackling, blocking and a bunch of other stuff.

Every player has a consistency stat, but the offense players often have more than one. For example, the TE has both receiving and blocking consistency.

If the TE has a higher blocking consistency than the DE then the TE will get a bigger bonus to the blocking interaction on pressure situations.

My theory is that everyone gets a static penalty during "Pressure Situations." Consistency acts as a bonus to help counteract that pressure. With enough consistency you can completely negate that penalty. With even more consistency you actually do better on 3rd downs than other downs.
 


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