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ProRobber
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Originally posted by Bash E. Bull
Another strange thing I've noticed in the pass catching sim- if the pass is deflected, its only the last player who touches it who gets credit for it. I've seen many plays where a DB or even a DE will deflect a pass to where it is visually obvious on the replay, then another player will go for it when the ball has bounced far from the receiver to apparently go for the INT and fail (using catch ball% instead of int% if this thread is correct?) and always without fail, the player who dropped the INT gets credit for the pass break-up rather than the defender who initially deflected the pass. Had no other defender got near enough to touch it, the first defender to deflect the pass would have gotten credit for it- even if the pass was caught! That is crazy to me.

Is everyone 100% sure that int% chance is not the same as catch ball% chance though? I swear I remember reading that they were the same thing. Maybe I'm confusing it with quick cut and change direction.


99.8% sure... but Bort has been known to be completely stoned on occasion. The debate was had in this thread
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5306803

and this quote was dug up
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4829505&page=3#44683711

also applies to VAs
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4616205&page=8#42322083

so it isn't a huge stretch to assume SAs also... like Diving Catch or 1HC
Edited by ProRobber on Jun 5, 2020 22:22:43
 
TJ Spikes
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You're welcome

Edited by TJ Spikes on Jun 6, 2020 10:28:32
 
Daedalus
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Originally posted by Bash E. Bull
To be frank, the main thing lacking from GLB is something like this. I still am not convinced a sober human being can invent with unadulterated imagination something like this. Maybe you should apply for a job writing for saturday night live; I don't think its been that creative since I was a kid in high school.


I'll take that as a compliment (whether it was meant to be or not), but tbh I've never actually taken LSD. Don't think it would help much with my focus/retention/reliability in my day job as a civil engineer. But it's well known that many of the most creative minds that have lived were out of their gords on one thing or another when they came up with many of their greatest contributions. Maybe I'll give it a try and see if I can come up with an improved highway transportation system incorporating rainbows in the design and paid for with the Leprechaun gold found at the end.

 
Theo Wizzago
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Originally posted by Norse
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=3013913&pbp_id=25806

HB receives pass and breaks tackle and scores TD. The tackler he broke is awarded a deflection...doesn't seem to be a deflection on the pass...


Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
After a deflect, the receiver can still make a catch attempt (and succeed occasionally). And the replays don't always show the ball changing direction after a deflect.


In this replay (recent game) it even says the FS deflected the pass. https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=3011784&pbp_id=338233

Thought you'd just wanna know it happens more often than one might think.
 
TJ Spikes
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Again that DEF you can see, if you pause the play and go frame by frame from when the QB releases it.

Right when the nose of the ball crosses the 13 yard line, you can see it spinning.

The next frame, the ball stops spinning, but keeps moving forward. A few frames later you can see the TE actually catch it.

There are some you can't even see, which can be chalked up to a small deflection right into the receiver's hands.

It's important to remember there's a metric ass ton of math and rolling the Ai does behind the scenes. Things like deflection radius of the defender, to see if it's possible for him to even try, and the skill of the deflection with attributes and SAs and VAs, then if deflected, the angle and velocity of the ball after.

In this specific case, you can kind of see that the ball was likely just inside of the deflection radius of the FS. Which could logically cause a weaker deflection, like only getting a finger on it. That logically could allow for the TE to make a bobbled catch.

And in you mind you can hear Chris Collinsworth going "ah ha ha ho man, great concentration by the tight end on that catch right there"

Edited by TJ Spikes on Jun 13, 2020 09:31:27
 
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