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Jeff Williams
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How come one conference is completely undefeated versus the other? I mean I seen unbalanced leagues before, but first place in Zeta conference = last place in Alpha. Somethin just aint right with this...
 
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Originally posted by Jeff Williams
How come one conference is completely undefeated versus the other? I mean I seen unbalanced leagues before, but first place in Zeta conference = last place in Alpha. Somethin just aint right with this...


The 1st 3 teams in Alpha are basically rinse & repeat teams who only play Rookie so their builds show that as they can't compete long term. I dare any of those teams to try to get in the WL to see what they really got!
 
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Pretty much what he said. Those are peewee gold teams that hang out in rookie instead.
 
Jeff Williams
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Yeah I noticed some of these teams think its pee wee. What up with that? Second half of the season its gonna catch up with them i bet. But why is only the good teams in the Alpha conference? I think there wasn't even a cpu team until slaycity fled to the other conference? It seem like the conferences should be more balanced. Really they should just randomly put teams in leagues for the right age until they get to national pro. It don't make sense when u got all the best teams compete in one league and them other teams who wouldn't have made the play-offs there end up skating to a title in the easier leagues. It should just be random until it gets to national pro.
 
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Originally posted by Jeff Williams
Yeah I noticed some of these teams think its pee wee. What up with that? Second half of the season its gonna catch up with them i bet. But why is only the good teams in the Alpha conference? I think there wasn't even a cpu team until slaycity fled to the other conference? It seem like the conferences should be more balanced. Really they should just randomly put teams in leagues for the right age until they get to national pro. It don't make sense when u got all the best teams compete in one league and them other teams who wouldn't have made the play-offs there end up skating to a title in the easier leagues. It should just be random until it gets to national pro.


While you could get upset at it, I just reckoned it's their way of playing the game. Kinda like how some people only play casual... or build dots only for D-leagues. As for recycle teams that never leave Rookie, consider; They never have to worry much about stadium building... never have to spend lots of flex on dots... don't need a bucket full of AI's you need because of how much things change the higher up you grow. I mean, I can get it. I wouldn't want to DO it... but I can get it. I'll say this though... if you can beat them you're pretty good at both dot building AND coaching, for sure... because they've been doin this for years and years and are good at it.
 
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Originally posted by Jeff Williams
Yeah I noticed some of these teams think its pee wee. What up with that? Second half of the season its gonna catch up with them i bet. But why is only the good teams in the Alpha conference? I think there wasn't even a cpu team until slaycity fled to the other conference? It seem like the conferences should be more balanced. Really they should just randomly put teams in leagues for the right age until they get to national pro. It don't make sense when u got all the best teams compete in one league and them other teams who wouldn't have made the play-offs there end up skating to a title in the easier leagues. It should just be random until it gets to national pro.


As far as slaycity we didn’t flee, not sure why we were moved but it wasn’t anything I requested. It kind of is what it is. This is an impressive class of rookie teams even without the professional rookie teams. So the prep leagues should still be beastly next season as long as everyone from this season keeps rolling.
 
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Originally posted by John Wilkes
As far as slaycity we didn’t flee, not sure why we were moved but it wasn’t anything I requested. It kind of is what it is. This is an impressive class of rookie teams even without the professional rookie teams. So the prep leagues should still be beastly next season as long as everyone from this season keeps rolling.


glb wouldnt move you unless you agreed to move
 
John Wilkes
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
glb wouldnt move you unless you agreed to move


Well then I don’t know what to tell you, cause I have nothing in my support ticket history about it, which means if I got then moved I both, have no memory of it, and got it done through unofficial channels, which would impress me because I have no idea how to do that. I have no shame, if I’d had them moved wouldn’t have bothered responding.
 
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You know what its possible DD saw how unbalanced the leagues were and tried to throw a cpu in to balance it out. I think i seen that happen before but u never can tell. Now that i think bout it seems there was more cpu teams b4 and got bought up late but hell if i can remember for real. If that what DD was tryin it didn't really work out. Now we gotta push space hammer out the play-offs and if that how it go down it ain't really fair to them. It aint fair to us with the lost home play-off revenue it make my job more tough. I mean not really cuz we still gonna be an extra 200 level EZ ahead of what the stadium supposed to be at goin into second season but still that cash in hand lost and you never sneeze at rainy day funds
 
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I'd think it's a kind of 'catch 22' proposition. Without enough teams to really make BOTH conferences (leagues as well?) competitive you'd be left with this choice; Either put all (or most all) team into one conference (or league) which leaves the other conference (or league) filled with (mostly?) CPU teams and weak, but would make the season highly competitive where all the Human teams are... but would also make the championship a bit of a joke...
OR try to split the teams evenly across the two conferences (or leagues) and end up with the regular season being mostly boring with only a handful of games really meaningful... but the playoffs and championships would be really good.

Either way you'll end up with an imperfect season.
 
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Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
I'd think it's a kind of 'catch 22' proposition. Without enough teams to really make BOTH conferences (leagues as well?) competitive you'd be left with this choice; Either put all (or most all) team into one conference (or league) which leaves the other conference (or league) filled with (mostly?) CPU teams and weak, but would make the season highly competitive where all the Human teams are... but would also make the championship a bit of a joke...
OR try to split the teams evenly across the two conferences (or leagues) and end up with the regular season being mostly boring with only a handful of games really meaningful... but the playoffs and championships would be really good.

Either way you'll end up with an imperfect season.


True enough.....Used to be that from d40 to d80 youd have one super team who have no cares until pro who would be by themselves in the 2nd tier...With lower user numbers that is sort of happening in rookie most seasons now I guess. The advantage is that it makes it easier to just wait and concentrate on builds

For the one and done teams I have no problem with how they play the game...The fact that they still do is good for GLBs continuance. And is also a good chance to do some co-ord stuff trials with no real pressure or comeback



 
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Added to that is what I find the most tiresome task on GLB....When that rare occassional rookie agent drifts thru and you have to tell him that theres no point boosting before d 48 (ish etc)
 
Jeff Williams
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what is the point of peewee if teams are gonna one-and-done anyhow? Oh well, these teams not only miss out on completing their dots which is the most enjoyable part anyhow plus their dots really aint significantly better for it by the end of rookie anyhow. I got a new plan for us and Space Hammer: lets just knock the anthromorphs out the play-off picture entirely then play each other in the conference championship game and that way at least a real team from our conference will make the Super Bowl
 
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Originally posted by zz man
Added to that is what I find the most tiresome task on GLB....When that rare occassional rookie agent drifts thru and you have to tell him that theres no point boosting before d 48 (ish etc)


one of the teams already did their 3 boosts this season. still the only thing they do good is return kicks. the team we play tonight already did one of their boost but somehow all their guys still got lower effective level than us. This one-and-done thing goes exactly against what you are talking about. all it means is more dots that won't make it in pro, and less FA to choose from for team owners. I see not at all how this helps the game at all. The only thing is does is discourage new players who might try to do it the right way in rookie. So then u got even more new agents who might think they need to boost early just harming the game more, and many of them will leave the game because of it without ever seeing what the game can be when it is right and enjoyable. So it harms the game in every possible way. By your own words this is. I don't know why you discount your own words.
 


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