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I'm curious what you all recommend for balance, footwork, quickness, awareness, Elusiveness, etc.


I have my guesses, but would like some input.

I've done Fast Power guys to death and need something different to keep my interest up.

Juke's effectiveness at fooling defenders is all in quickness and elusiveness, 75 awareness is where your back starts using it at good times - 50 where he doesn't use it at bad times and still fires it off with good consistency.

Footwork helps control it, like shortening one side of the juke and elongating the other to end up in a more advantageous position after the move.

Quickness and elusive running should be 50 to pull off some jukes, above 60-70 if you want them to come often and fast, but on the other hand once footwork gets over 60 they start to get really controllable as well.

Big thing: Do not end up with footwork and quickness within 15 of eachother, this will cause your back to waffle and not know which style of running he wants to do, quick cuts or shifty adjustments - and he WILL try to do both and end up hesitating too much. It's ruined many of my builds. Your back has to rely on one or the other for his primary movement patterns. This only seems to happen with investments into elusive running though, on powerbacks it seems okay.

I have had a star back on one of my teams that was elusive based. They had like 95 elusiveness and footwork was around 50. I think the key would be to get all physicals as high as you can. the elusiveness is really important with the footwork and quickness. The better quickness is the better they can use juke and then take off towards the endzone.

Originally posted by Raid

Big thing: Do not end up with footwork and quickness within 15 of eachother, this will cause your back to waffle and not know which style of running he wants to do, quick cuts or shifty adjustments - and he WILL try to do both and end up hesitating too much. It's ruined many of my builds. Your back has to rely on one or the other for his primary movement patterns. This only seems to happen with investments into elusive running though, on powerbacks it seems okay.

I just popped back in to see how the game was going after a bit of a break. Are you sure it's not a sign of balance being too low? I've had some fantastic success with high Quickness/Footwork backs--especially when going gold Sure-Footed, which also improves the value of having high Quickness, by making recovery from sharp pivots much faster.

Originally posted by Oofty
I just popped back in to see how the game was going after a bit of a break. Are you sure it's not a sign of balance being too low? I've had some fantastic success with high Quickness/Footwork backs--especially when going gold Sure-Footed, which also improves the value of having high Quickness, by making recovery from sharp pivots much faster.

In my experience the backs always react better to leaning one way or the other, and 10 seems to be too close. Balance has always been a decent investment in my builds - even before the buff to it, surefooted is on every HB I make now.

70-50 always feels like a nice minimum one way or the other, but you can take it higher if you want more acrobatic moves - just kills the ability to go near 95 sprint while reaching for 70+ in either power or elusive - not to mention the investments into conditioning heart and toughness. You can't skimp too much if you want the back to do well in snow. All about give and take.

If you're okay with using either Power or Elusive, you can get them as close to eachother as you want. The scripting is so hard on those it doesn't much matter. But Slippery is the best for elusive-first type backs, and combo is the best for footwork-type backs.

Unless your sprint is under 80, then you're probably best just using Power. I've not done much research on north/south but it could probably do well for a slow back as well so long as the quickness and balance were high.