cant help users that blame the game instead of their AI/dots. game isn't broken, you're just bad at it.
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FastPanzer
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Well, it's clear the GLB doesn't need moderators or ambassadors (especially), it has a small group ready to pounce on any unsuspecting owner suggesting a relook of a programming topic.
FWIW, three times now I have acknowledged that "my schemes were off or not working". What about that is not accountability? I also happen to believe that some of the CPU teams are overly-juiced. I believe that two things can co-exist: schemes weren't working and a CPU team or two may be over-juiced.
You're not asking for humility and accountability, you are seeking to belittle and crater. Otherwise you might have acknowledged my truthful statement that I have G on a Global Pro team who is doing just fine. If I"m just bad at why do I usually have a couple of dots every season on the Pro/Global level teams?
One more owner gone to spend money at another platform. You guys should really consider having a beer and going easier on owners who raise an issue that it turns out some others have raised too.
FWIW, three times now I have acknowledged that "my schemes were off or not working". What about that is not accountability? I also happen to believe that some of the CPU teams are overly-juiced. I believe that two things can co-exist: schemes weren't working and a CPU team or two may be over-juiced.
You're not asking for humility and accountability, you are seeking to belittle and crater. Otherwise you might have acknowledged my truthful statement that I have G on a Global Pro team who is doing just fine. If I"m just bad at why do I usually have a couple of dots every season on the Pro/Global level teams?
One more owner gone to spend money at another platform. You guys should really consider having a beer and going easier on owners who raise an issue that it turns out some others have raised too.
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Originally posted by FastPanzer
Well Novus, that's not a relationship building post.. I've had teams that took runners up, and I've had some that weren't good (e.g. 7 and 9). I've had some MVP dots (casual level to be clear). I don't see it as "bad at playing a game". I see it as not as good as some others (possibly you) and not having the time to do proper scouting and getting the scheme fine-tuned. I tried a heavy passing offense this time and couldn't get it in synch.
I have a G dot right now on a championship Global/Pro team and he's been renewed for next season. My guess is that it's less about my dot's quality and more about the schemes I'm running (just not working). I'm not happy about it. And since I pay to play this game, I have a right to question a programming decision (CPUs) by the ownership. Maybe the blame of failure is misallocated, to your point, and I have a right to raise it while acknowledging that some of schemes weren't working well.
I've coached hundreds of people between business, athletics (high school and middle school) and the US Army. And usually it's most effective to try to find something positive to say about a person's performance amidst an intense criticism. Did I miss the olive branch?
John
part of fixing any problem is to properly identify the problem. i have no idea what a "championship Global/Pro team" means, but with the severe shortage of quality dots these days, anything short of being in the WL at some point during your plateau seasons means that your dot building needs improvement. the biggest problem that i suspect most have with your OP is that you are complaining about things that have been discussed ad nauseam for years. whats the point of playing a game if you have no chance to lose no matter how poorly you play? back to the lack of players point, CPU players must be competent otherwise any team needing a few will have no chance to win.
to me the problem with glb has been that it tried to do too many things at different levels using the same code. play calling in this game doesnt match how we are required to build players. by forcing players to maximize ALGs, we have to spend most of the career building the skills, but it's the SAs/VAs that make or break the player and a good dot cant really start getting enough of those until near the end of the build process. so the passing game is ok early when there are tons of low level bonuses, but once those bonuses are gone, passing is a mess until the dots fully mature.
i wouldnt gut a team this close to plateau. that would be like traveling from new york to LA but giving up at Denver. whether your team will be able to pass at the end is unknown, you now know that passing is not viable at your current level. whether you adapt, quit, or complain is up to you.
Well Novus, that's not a relationship building post.. I've had teams that took runners up, and I've had some that weren't good (e.g. 7 and 9). I've had some MVP dots (casual level to be clear). I don't see it as "bad at playing a game". I see it as not as good as some others (possibly you) and not having the time to do proper scouting and getting the scheme fine-tuned. I tried a heavy passing offense this time and couldn't get it in synch.
I have a G dot right now on a championship Global/Pro team and he's been renewed for next season. My guess is that it's less about my dot's quality and more about the schemes I'm running (just not working). I'm not happy about it. And since I pay to play this game, I have a right to question a programming decision (CPUs) by the ownership. Maybe the blame of failure is misallocated, to your point, and I have a right to raise it while acknowledging that some of schemes weren't working well.
I've coached hundreds of people between business, athletics (high school and middle school) and the US Army. And usually it's most effective to try to find something positive to say about a person's performance amidst an intense criticism. Did I miss the olive branch?
John
part of fixing any problem is to properly identify the problem. i have no idea what a "championship Global/Pro team" means, but with the severe shortage of quality dots these days, anything short of being in the WL at some point during your plateau seasons means that your dot building needs improvement. the biggest problem that i suspect most have with your OP is that you are complaining about things that have been discussed ad nauseam for years. whats the point of playing a game if you have no chance to lose no matter how poorly you play? back to the lack of players point, CPU players must be competent otherwise any team needing a few will have no chance to win.
to me the problem with glb has been that it tried to do too many things at different levels using the same code. play calling in this game doesnt match how we are required to build players. by forcing players to maximize ALGs, we have to spend most of the career building the skills, but it's the SAs/VAs that make or break the player and a good dot cant really start getting enough of those until near the end of the build process. so the passing game is ok early when there are tons of low level bonuses, but once those bonuses are gone, passing is a mess until the dots fully mature.
i wouldnt gut a team this close to plateau. that would be like traveling from new york to LA but giving up at Denver. whether your team will be able to pass at the end is unknown, you now know that passing is not viable at your current level. whether you adapt, quit, or complain is up to you.
Guppy, Inc
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
your dot isnt even lvl 79.
more worried that he thinks that UND is a good team. no offense to UND, i enjoyed my time there, but it isnt currently one of the top 25-30 teams.
"Otherwise you might have acknowledged my truthful statement that I have G on a Global Pro team who is doing just fine. If I"m just bad at why do I usually have a couple of dots every season on the Pro/Global level teams?"
this statement is wrong on so many levels. that might be a big part of the problem. WE know this, he doesn't. i still dont even know what a global team is. i suspect that he doesn't know that the global team ranking system has been broken and not updating for years, thus his over confidence in his dot building skills.
your dot isnt even lvl 79.
more worried that he thinks that UND is a good team. no offense to UND, i enjoyed my time there, but it isnt currently one of the top 25-30 teams.
"Otherwise you might have acknowledged my truthful statement that I have G on a Global Pro team who is doing just fine. If I"m just bad at why do I usually have a couple of dots every season on the Pro/Global level teams?"
this statement is wrong on so many levels. that might be a big part of the problem. WE know this, he doesn't. i still dont even know what a global team is. i suspect that he doesn't know that the global team ranking system has been broken and not updating for years, thus his over confidence in his dot building skills.
Edited by Guppy, Inc on Apr 16, 2019 14:14:21
FastPanzer
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Wow, a real post and conversation!I don't doubt that my dot building needs improvement, that does not make it inherently bad, which has been repeated multiple times by the three of you.
If there is anything I take away from this whole string its that there is a small cadre of very veteran owners who are extremely protective of the game, to the point at which they go beyond critiques to personal attacks (multiple posts of "you are just bad at the game"). While I admit that my game in some areas may be sub-par, that doesn't make it "bad". Further, I have had dots do well at the senior most levels of the game to include WL.
I offer to those of you who seem very passionate about this game that you are attacking people who bring up, admittedly, old issues. FWIW, my past teams did better against CPUs (e.g. a year ago). This pass heavy team has not done better against about 1/2 of the CPU teams. And I DID adjust all the various scheme nobs trying to get it to work (both at the individual dot level and the team level...just couldn't move the ball against a couple of teams...one CPU in particular and got crushed).
What I'm getting ready to say I don't mean as an offense to any of the three of you, and I didn't find the tone of this email string (until Guppy's most recent) to be "constructive". It was a very pointed call to accountability as if I had committed a crime. The tag teaming does not encourage mid level performance owners like me to continue to play, just for your consideration. I have no idea what your backgrounds or beliefs are, and please let's go our separate ways in Peace. John
If there is anything I take away from this whole string its that there is a small cadre of very veteran owners who are extremely protective of the game, to the point at which they go beyond critiques to personal attacks (multiple posts of "you are just bad at the game"). While I admit that my game in some areas may be sub-par, that doesn't make it "bad". Further, I have had dots do well at the senior most levels of the game to include WL.
I offer to those of you who seem very passionate about this game that you are attacking people who bring up, admittedly, old issues. FWIW, my past teams did better against CPUs (e.g. a year ago). This pass heavy team has not done better against about 1/2 of the CPU teams. And I DID adjust all the various scheme nobs trying to get it to work (both at the individual dot level and the team level...just couldn't move the ball against a couple of teams...one CPU in particular and got crushed).
What I'm getting ready to say I don't mean as an offense to any of the three of you, and I didn't find the tone of this email string (until Guppy's most recent) to be "constructive". It was a very pointed call to accountability as if I had committed a crime. The tag teaming does not encourage mid level performance owners like me to continue to play, just for your consideration. I have no idea what your backgrounds or beliefs are, and please let's go our separate ways in Peace. John
I also had a dot on UND and fairly agree. It's a farm team...I saw he mentioned they "renewed him." but they didn't...team is gutting after this season and starting over.
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Regarding UND, I received a text from a GM a few weeks back checking on my interest to renew. I said yes.That was the basis for my renewal comment.
You guys get any last word you want from here on out.
You guys get any last word you want from here on out.
i like helping new guys. hate reading posts from users blaming CPUs to be overpowered. you should be walking through CPUs at your level, even with bort plays/AIs.
the lower levels canbe a bit of a pain cuz of the builds not being rounded out/stam issues but thats about it. get on a team with decent dots, learn from their builds/coordinators then try to own a team again.
the lower levels canbe a bit of a pain cuz of the builds not being rounded out/stam issues but thats about it. get on a team with decent dots, learn from their builds/coordinators then try to own a team again.
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Originally posted by FastPanzer
Wow, a real post and conversation!I don't doubt that my dot building needs improvement, that does not make it inherently bad, which has been repeated multiple times by the three of you.
If there is anything I take away from this whole string its that there is a small cadre of very veteran owners who are extremely protective of the game, to the point at which they go beyond critiques to personal attacks (multiple posts of "you are just bad at the game"). While I admit that my game in some areas may be sub-par, that doesn't make it "bad". Further, I have had dots do well at the senior most levels of the game to include WL.
I offer to those of you who seem very passionate about this game that you are attacking people who bring up, admittedly, old issues. FWIW, my past teams did better against CPUs (e.g. a year ago). This pass heavy team has not done better against about 1/2 of the CPU teams. And I DID adjust all the various scheme nobs trying to get it to work (both at the individual dot level and the team level...just couldn't move the ball against a couple of teams...one CPU in particular and got crushed).
What I'm getting ready to say I don't mean as an offense to any of the three of you, and I didn't find the tone of this email string (until Guppy's most recent) to be "constructive". It was a very pointed call to accountability as if I had committed a crime. The tag teaming does not encourage mid level performance owners like me to continue to play, just for your consideration. I have no idea what your backgrounds or beliefs are, and please let's go our separate ways in Peace. John
please show me 1 time where I personally attacked you, or for that matter, any one but PK, and thats not even a personal attack, you should see what he says to those he likes....LOL. pointing out that your game plan was terrible and that your dot building might not be as good as you think is NOT a personal attack. I also pointed out where you lacked knowledge in CPU players and teams. at no point did i call you any names. in the old days, GLB didnt allow any "game is broken" threads, but there appears to be no mods left. you might want to reread your OP from OUR perspective. It was 100% a whiny thread, and like novus said, every season people make these posts blaming the game and it's well known rules, instead of blaming their lack of understanding of the game. there are plenty of people that help noobs which is what most of the posts here were trying to do, if you hadn't been taking them all as personal attacks.
Wow, a real post and conversation!I don't doubt that my dot building needs improvement, that does not make it inherently bad, which has been repeated multiple times by the three of you.
If there is anything I take away from this whole string its that there is a small cadre of very veteran owners who are extremely protective of the game, to the point at which they go beyond critiques to personal attacks (multiple posts of "you are just bad at the game"). While I admit that my game in some areas may be sub-par, that doesn't make it "bad". Further, I have had dots do well at the senior most levels of the game to include WL.
I offer to those of you who seem very passionate about this game that you are attacking people who bring up, admittedly, old issues. FWIW, my past teams did better against CPUs (e.g. a year ago). This pass heavy team has not done better against about 1/2 of the CPU teams. And I DID adjust all the various scheme nobs trying to get it to work (both at the individual dot level and the team level...just couldn't move the ball against a couple of teams...one CPU in particular and got crushed).
What I'm getting ready to say I don't mean as an offense to any of the three of you, and I didn't find the tone of this email string (until Guppy's most recent) to be "constructive". It was a very pointed call to accountability as if I had committed a crime. The tag teaming does not encourage mid level performance owners like me to continue to play, just for your consideration. I have no idea what your backgrounds or beliefs are, and please let's go our separate ways in Peace. John
please show me 1 time where I personally attacked you, or for that matter, any one but PK, and thats not even a personal attack, you should see what he says to those he likes....LOL. pointing out that your game plan was terrible and that your dot building might not be as good as you think is NOT a personal attack. I also pointed out where you lacked knowledge in CPU players and teams. at no point did i call you any names. in the old days, GLB didnt allow any "game is broken" threads, but there appears to be no mods left. you might want to reread your OP from OUR perspective. It was 100% a whiny thread, and like novus said, every season people make these posts blaming the game and it's well known rules, instead of blaming their lack of understanding of the game. there are plenty of people that help noobs which is what most of the posts here were trying to do, if you hadn't been taking them all as personal attacks.
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FastPanzer, you didn't miss the olive branch; there wasn't one.
You started this thread with a pretty aggressively-worded post that blamed Bort's bad programming and inattention for your human team losing to a CPU team in the playoffs. You set the tone for this thread with your very first post.
You didn't lose to a CPU team in the playoffs because of Bort. You lost to a CPU team in the playoffs because you lost to that same CPU team twice before in the regular season and failed to notice or adjust. That's not Bort's fault.
You started this thread with a pretty aggressively-worded post that blamed Bort's bad programming and inattention for your human team losing to a CPU team in the playoffs. You set the tone for this thread with your very first post.
You didn't lose to a CPU team in the playoffs because of Bort. You lost to a CPU team in the playoffs because you lost to that same CPU team twice before in the regular season and failed to notice or adjust. That's not Bort's fault.
Edited by Novus on Apr 16, 2019 15:15:25
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Originally posted by Rocdog21
If darncat had a nice side...FastPanzer would be it.
you incel, that was funny
If darncat had a nice side...FastPanzer would be it.
you incel, that was funny
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I honestly feel for guys like FastPanzer. Someone who has spent that much money should at least get to enjoy wins against CPU teams.
But FastPanzer, like others have said already, nothing about this game is never going to change, ever again. If you want to win more games, you need to be the one to make changes.
While I'm trying to be extra nice here, if I'd have to be brutally honest, I'd say it's that the reason you're losing to CPU teams is definitely your builds. While they might look fine to you, and they probably aren't horrible, they still are way below of what is possible. Just look at some of the effective levels of the top teams in your age group. passing QBs are +15, HBs +10, WRs +7, and so on. +2's, +3's and +5's are way behind, and it's only going to get worse as they get older. You don't need the best builds to win, but it sure does look like you need better ones.
It also might be about your system too, but I don't know enough about casual systems to say for sure. What I do know for sure is that well built casual teams don't lose to CPUs.
But FastPanzer, like others have said already, nothing about this game is never going to change, ever again. If you want to win more games, you need to be the one to make changes.
While I'm trying to be extra nice here, if I'd have to be brutally honest, I'd say it's that the reason you're losing to CPU teams is definitely your builds. While they might look fine to you, and they probably aren't horrible, they still are way below of what is possible. Just look at some of the effective levels of the top teams in your age group. passing QBs are +15, HBs +10, WRs +7, and so on. +2's, +3's and +5's are way behind, and it's only going to get worse as they get older. You don't need the best builds to win, but it sure does look like you need better ones.
It also might be about your system too, but I don't know enough about casual systems to say for sure. What I do know for sure is that well built casual teams don't lose to CPUs.
After digesting this entire thread, I have come to this conclusion....hahahahahaha you lost to a CPU team in the playoffs 
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