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mcspud
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All of the new players like myself, or at least the ones I've chatted with agree that the game allows the old-timers to rig the system by not making rules to stop them. These cheaters have teams in the same leagues and even in the same divisions. Owners of these teams coach or manage teams that are supposed to be their 'rivals?" That's just an insult to everyone's intelligence. There is no true open competition. Everyone sees how they rig the playoff system by throwing games when a friend's team needs a win to get in. The problem with that is that it excludes new owners from making it to higher levels of success. It's hurting the game, and it seems like the people who run the game are either oblivious to it or simply don't care.

What's the result? New players see that they don't have a fair chance to succeed, and they write-off GLB2 as a game that they might enjoy. The people who run it are too afraid to offend the old and entrenched players by trying to level the playing field, so the game never gets new investors, or at least not the number that they could be getting if not for the cozy relationship between cronies and management.

I say that it's the fault of both the old-timers and the people who operate the game that it isn't breaking through as it should. It's a great game and should do better, but until some solution to this is implemented, it will stay a wannabe third-tier game. A little backbone by management would go a long way.
 
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Quit. Vote with your money.
Edited by Jimmeroo on Aug 3, 2018 12:34:57
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PeepingKing
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Originally posted by Sov.


Shocking, Sov doesn't like it
 
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Examples?
 
agerm73
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I have not seen or heard of any of the cheating being referred to. It can certainly be disheartening losing to the same coaches every time multiple times and at various levels. Especially when the game isn't even close. That being said, there is a world of difference in experience and knowledge between veteran coaches and new coaches. A lot of the veteran coaches, myself included, have gone out of their way to mentor new coaches. In my experience, this usually ends up with me just running their team and them not making any effort to learn the game. GLB2 has a long and steep learning curve. If you want to be successful then you need to put in some work.
At the moment, there does not appear to be a lot of Human owned teams. I would think that the devs could hand balance leagues to give new coaches, even lesser experienced coaches a better experience.
 
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Originally posted by PeepingKing
Shocking, Sov doesn't like it


my god do you have some obsessive complex, i am almost flattered

Originally posted by agerm73
I have not seen or heard of any of the cheating being referred to.


exactly, he is new and confused, just because many teams share the same coaches, most of them lolcoach and just ride coattails to get achievements. just because two teams play each other and share the same coaches doesn't mean any cheating is going on.
 
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Originally posted by mcspud
All of the new players like myself, or at least the ones I've chatted with agree that the game allows the old-timers to rig the system by not making rules to stop them. These cheaters have teams in the same leagues and even in the same divisions. Owners of these teams coach or manage teams that are supposed to be their 'rivals?" That's just an insult to everyone's intelligence. There is no true open competition. Everyone sees how they rig the playoff system by throwing games when a friend's team needs a win to get in. The problem with that is that it excludes new owners from making it to higher levels of success. It's hurting the game, and it seems like the people who run the game are either oblivious to it or simply don't care.

What's the result? New players see that they don't have a fair chance to succeed, and they write-off GLB2 as a game that they might enjoy. The people who run it are too afraid to offend the old and entrenched players by trying to level the playing field, so the game never gets new investors, or at least not the number that they could be getting if not for the cozy relationship between cronies and management.

I say that it's the fault of both the old-timers and the people who operate the game that it isn't breaking through as it should. It's a great game and should do better, but until some solution to this is implemented, it will stay a wannabe third-tier game. A little backbone by management would go a long way.


 
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I'd love to rip the vets, but I think you're mistaken here. Like Sov said, most of the assistant coaches are there in title only to artificially increase their coaching record.

The best advice I can give to a newbie is to get glb scout. I'm pretty sure all the good teams use it. If you have questions about how to effectively use scout or about optimal player builds, reach out to the community. There's plenty of folks willing to help out.
 
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I'm not smart enough to rig the system. New players like yourself are to blame for me holding so many coaching positions. I let anyone use my tactics or advise them. My hopes are always for them to eventually take the Bull by the horn and play the game themselves, which rarely happens. Make no mistake I don't give a damn about those teams. Maybe an actual example of this cheating could help your cause otherwise stop whining.
 
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Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
I'm not smart enough to rig the system. New players like yourself are to blame for me holding so many coaching positions. I let anyone use my tactics or advise them. My hopes are always for them to eventually take the Bull by the horn and play the game themselves, which rarely happens. Make no mistake I don't give a damn about those teams. Maybe an actual example of this cheating could help your cause otherwise stop whining.


I've been guilty of riding coattails myself. But it was in a way that made me more invested in the game. This season, doing my own stuff has proved to me that I can benefit from doing the homework.
Edited by Jimmeroo on Aug 3, 2018 15:58:51
Edited by Jimmeroo on Aug 3, 2018 15:56:11
 
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The irony here, is that you see many Vets coaches on various teams because they DO help newcomers. When someone new to the game starts a team, they ask for help and many Vets will join the coaching staff to guide them along. Teams just generally don't fire staff seasons later, even when those Vets aren't even involved in the team anymore. Never seen cheating, and it would be pretty obvious if anyone tried it.
 
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Originally posted by BoDiddley
The irony here, is that you see many Vets coaches on various teams because they DO help newcomers. When someone new to the game starts a team, they ask for help and many Vets will join the coaching staff to guide them along. Teams just generally don't fire staff seasons later, even when those Vets aren't even involved in the team anymore. Never seen cheating, and it would be pretty obvious if anyone tried it.


This. Most GM spots on teams are generally to talk on their forums, make use of certain tactics, or just help out overall. But there isnt really any purposeful losses that i can think of off hand in the entire time ive been here.
 
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Originally posted by Jimmeroo
I've been guilty of riding coattails myself. But it was in a way that made me more invested in the game. This season, doing my own stuff has proved to me that I can benefit from doing the homework.


The thing is no one is going to care about your team more than you. If you put the work in you can take your team to heights you were unable to achieve counting on individuals who just don't care about your team the way you do. You start calling plays you start understanding and caring more about the builds. You then start caring more about fine tuning depth charts, player tactics, schemes, etc. You then find yourself at the top of the mountain.

Do you want to play this game, or do you want to really play this game? You sound like you are taking the bull by the horns, you will have growing pains but in the end they are well worth it.
 
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I really don't think what the original poster is describing is much of an issue. I can honestly say in the many seasons I've been playing this game I've never seen or heard of this kind of collusion happening.


The real impediment for newbies to get into the game is that it has a steep learning curve on both the player build and game planning aspects which requires a significant investment of time to overcome and most people aren't willing to put the necessary time in to get there (not saying that is a bad thing, there has to be some depth in it after all).
Edited by Danthesportsman on Aug 4, 2018 00:08:28
 
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