Warrior General Games

The most recent changelog added footwork as a means for breaking "indirect" tackles.

But what else does it do--other than affect the spin roll? At one time, I know it was believed that it sped up the spin itself (or covered more ground) and sped up the first half of a juke (with the second increased by quickness). Does anyone know definitively if that's [still] true?

I know it's not exactly popular to use FW, and I'm trying to determine if that's just because so many points were spent on the 100 Sprint fad.

Supposedly it helps counters.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
Supposedly it helps counters.

Is that it?

It affects the speed at which a HB can move in a direction without turning their body to face that direction. So basically it's how fast they can sidestep, or even how fast they can backpedal, but obviously HB's rarely backpedal.

Originally posted by Oofty
I'm trying to determine

Ok, you're now officially annoying.

You're not trying to determine anything. Pontificating on this board with thread after thread where all you do is ask question after question isn't how you determine anything.

Others have determined it. You're simply asking them to share their insights and knowledge.

You want to determine something? Here's what you do:

1. Write your question as a PM to yourself instead of the board. In other words, stop gabbing.
2. Build players and run tests.
3. Open the builds, post the tests and ask people for feedback about the tests rather than asking everyone else to core dump all of their info to you about every position and build type.

I like helping new players. You're far from new at this point.

Buy FLEX, build players and run tests.

That's how you determine something.

Not by asking for another handout.

Originally posted by MileHighShoes
It affects the speed at which a HB can move in a direction without turning their body to face that direction. So basically it's how fast they can sidestep, or even how fast they can backpedal, but obviously HB's rarely backpedal.

And just to be clear, that includes when using Juke, right?

Originally posted by Oofty
And just to be clear, that includes when using Juke, right?

Juke seems to be its own thing. Plenty of low footwork backs juke just fine

Originally posted by Xars
Ok, you're now officially annoying.

You're not trying to determine anything. Pontificating on this board with thread after thread where all you do is ask question after question isn't how you determine anything.

Others have determined it. You're simply asking them to share their insights and knowledge.

You want to determine something? Here's what you do:

1. Write your question as a PM to yourself instead of the board. In other words, stop gabbing.
2. Build players and run tests.
3. Open the builds, post the tests and ask people for feedback about the tests rather than asking everyone else to core dump all of their info to you about every position and build type.

I like helping new players. You're far from new at this point.

Buy FLEX, build players and run tests.

That's how you determine something.

Not by asking for another handout.




I asked a very specific question regarding something that used to be taken as GLB-Gospel. And I wasn't sure if any recent changes might have affected them. Egads.

I agree with Xars. You are pretty lazy.

Originally posted by MileHighShoes
It affects the speed at which a HB can move in a direction without turning their body to face that direction. So basically it's how fast they can sidestep, or even how fast they can backpedal, but obviously HB's rarely backpedal.

I saw C-Dog say it helped in a player turning around too, once.

Originally posted by Xars
Ok, you're now officially annoying.

You're not trying to determine anything. Pontificating on this board with thread after thread where all you do is ask question after question isn't how you determine anything.

Others have determined it. You're simply asking them to share their insights and knowledge.

You want to determine something? Here's what you do:

1. Write your question as a PM to yourself instead of the board. In other words, stop gabbing.
2. Build players and run tests.
3. Open the builds, post the tests and ask people for feedback about the tests rather than asking everyone else to core dump all of their info to you about every position and build type.

I like helping new players. You're far from new at this point.

Buy FLEX, build players and run tests.

That's how you determine something.

Not by asking for another handout.




Originally posted by Cuivienen
I agree with Xars. You are pretty lazy.


Don't be an asshat.

Whether he's new or not, having discussion here will help people in the future, new and old alike, who want to know more about the topic.

Honestly I look at Ethan Barber in Vet on my team and his 50+ footwork isn't anything to write home about. I don't know whether it's the Quickness or Footwork that help on a select number of Counter plays (Trips counter Strong or Strong I counter) but it really isn't enough of a deal to change a build around at this point.

Originally posted by bhall43
Honestly I look at Ethan Barber in Vet on my team and his 50+ footwork isn't anything to write home about. I don't know whether it's the Quickness or Footwork that help on a select number of Counter plays (Trips counter Strong or Strong I counter) but it really isn't enough of a deal to change a build around at this point.

Some of these plays have me wondering about a back like mine but with more sprinting. Among other things, breaking a lot of indirect tackles lately.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/341875/300605?player_id=180570

I know morale was probably part of it, but I think footwork played a part in breaking two tackles here. FWIW, my back's Power Running is 8, and he doesn't have Juke.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/342952/540994?player_id=180570

Originally posted by Oofty
Some of these plays have me wondering about a back like mine but with more sprinting. Among other things, breaking a lot of indirect tackles lately.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/341875/300605?player_id=180570

I know morale was probably part of it, but I think footwork played a part in breaking two tackles here. FWIW, my back's Power Running is 8, and he doesn't have Juke.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/342952/540994?player_id=180570

I don't think the second replay looks to have remotely anything to do with footwork. Your back doesn't even change a direction, it just fires B4I. Unsure about the first replay but I doubt that has much to do with Footwork as well.

I dunno where is your footwork at? Barber i think is around 50-60 so you can take a look at him on my team. I have done a bunch of comparing his running to trogdor and hammered lately tho and he doesn't really seem to do a ton different from the two despite being much more of an elusive than a power back.