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Just about every game I watch, I see at least one play in which the following happens:

The RB is trying to turn the corner. In front of him is a blocker and a defender, with the defender being closer to the sideline. As long as everyone is moving toward the sideline, the blocker is powerless to do anything because he's trailing behind the defender. If the RB were to cut infield, the blocker could prevent the defender from doing the same. But the RB never does - he just keeps on towards the sideline and goes out of bounds.

Surely this is football 101: follow your blockers - don't run in front of them.

Change your HBs tactics

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
Change your HBs tactics

I feel kinda gross saying this but GE is right, Power Running produces exactly what you're asking for...

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/322184/637162

First, cutting infield is (arguably) an Elusive thing to do, as it is an attempt to evade the defender. The Power option is to stick to your line and hope to fend off, or just power through, the eventual tackle.

Second, when there is a blocker in front, isn't it always right (regardless of your tactics setting) for the RB to choose a path that takes him behind, rather than in front of, the blocker? Running in front of him gives him no chance to be useful.

I don't want the RB to cut infield all the time. I want him to do so only when the defender is outside the blocker. When the blocker is outside the defender, I want the RB to continue towards the sideline.

Originally posted by DeeVee8
I feel kinda gross saying this but GE is right, Power Running produces exactly what you're asking for...

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/322184/637162

That being said the power rushing tactic really sucks at low levels, it actually hurts your HB more than helps them.

Originally posted by ThirdAndLong
First, cutting infield is (arguably) an Elusive thing to do, as it is an attempt to evade the defender. The Power option is to stick to your line and hope to fend off, or just power through, the eventual tackle.

Second, when there is a blocker in front, isn't it always right (regardless of your tactics setting) for the RB to choose a path that takes him behind, rather than in front of, the blocker? Running in front of him gives him no chance to be useful.

I don't want the RB to cut infield all the time. I want him to do so only when the defender is outside the blocker. When the blocker is outside the defender, I want the RB to continue towards the sideline.

I don't think that is a tactic option.

I don't think HB's need to be any better.

Originally posted by Galactic Empire
I don't think that is a tactic option.
I don't know why you are fixated on tactics options. For me the issue is how the sim models the behaviour of RBs. The skill description for Carrying Awareness talks about seeing defenders; I'm saying that a good RB sees blockers too, and chooses his path accordingly. If coaches call plays that put blockers out in front of their RB, only to have him make no use of them, they're going to get frustrated with the game and possibly quit.

Originally posted by MadCow420
I don't think HB's need to be any better.
The sim must contain zillions of parameters that control how much effect the various factors have on the various probabilities. Game balance issues are best solved by tweaking those parameters, not by deliberately ignoring factors that logically should affect the game.

I feel like this should be part of having high carry awareness.

Running backs also suck massively at maneuvering through blocking interactions. They often run smack into a blocking interaction and stay there until they are tackled. Unfortunately running is pretty good right now so some balancing would need to be done to make this change happen without making running even more OP

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay/316865/1868589

This play reminded me of this thread. Kind of annoying how the QB ran into the blocker, but the result was amazing. Ended up waiting perfectly for the block to develop.

I love it when HBs wait for their blockers. Sometimes it fails, but when it doesn't, the ball carrier is gone. Surely this is a function of Carry Awareness. Now, there's Carry awareness, and then there's Carry Awareness My tuppence, got to be elite in this skill for it to really matter

Equally, I've noticed the ball carrier charging into blocking situations much more regularly this season too (my team is only in Soph, so it could just be a baby builds thing). This is likely where the Carry Aware. and Tactics intereact. I'm also seeing defenders hovering about doing nothing and then realising the ball carrier is 5 yds upfield after they watched them run past, more often this season. As I say, baby builds, but this seems more like Sim behaviour that is different. I'll let the smart people take the chair on this...

Who is the HB in question? Would love to see his build and offer some advice (should it be needed), rather than have you rage quit.

Most of all, be careful about expecting logical behaviour in the game. There have been many arguments about the logic of things that remain unchanged since many seasons. All Hail! to the god of dice!

Well the pathing in this game is terrible in general. Noy just for rb. If they do this they reallh need to improve pathing on defense

Originally posted by chronicbomb
Well the pathing in this game is terrible in general. Noy just for rb. If they do this they reallh need to improve pathing on defense

Yes I wouldn't mind if RB pathing was improved so long as defensive pathing was improved. Defenders should be able to figure out how not to run into other defenders already engaged in blocks. Or how to properly contain when in pursuit.