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How much Quick is needed for a MLB? 50 to 60?

How much speed? I'm guessing prob about 70+?

How much footwork? 50 to 70?

Minimum tackling? 70?

Minimum snap? 60?

For run stopping, I wouldn't take Quickness over about 40. Sprinting will definitely help more, and 70+ is a solid goal there. I'd really want 80 if possible. First Step (to silver probably) is a good complement to lowish Quickness and high Sprinting.

Footwork is more useful for pass coverage, so I would aim for 40-50 there too.

Not sure about Snap Reaction..I'd be inclined to do far less there, like 30-40. Man/Zone Awr is probably more important in recognizing the play.

As big as possible on tackling. Something like 80 Tech, 80 Power, 60 Grip if you can make it work.

Also need a healthy dose of things like Break Run Block, Toughness, Pursuit..probably want Strip Tech and/or Intim to a decent level.

If he's a high pursuit MLB, would those numbers still be the same?

Originally posted by Myrik_Justiciar
If he's a high pursuit MLB, would those numbers still be the same?

It isn't particularly expensive, so it shouldn't change that much about the other skills if you go bigger on Pursuit.

I made a test player just now with 78 Pursuit and he did everything I mentioned, except the Power Tackling only got to 70.

If you build the player well and ignore pass coverage, you should have plenty of points for run skills.

Originally posted by Spastic_Cowboy
First Step (to silver probably) is a good complement to lowish Quickness and high Sprinting.

This doesn't make sense. First Step needs Quickness to fire, and the lower it is (especially at Silver) will mean it fires even less. I like more quickness on linebackers, 50-65 quick, depending on what you want them to do. If they've got the First Step SA, than 60+.

Originally posted by Spastic_Cowboy
As big as possible on tackling. Something like 80 Tech, 80 Power, 60 Grip if you can make it work.

This would be pretty solid, Pursuit of 70ish and that's an all around solid linebacker. He'd whiff on elusive backs every now and then, but by and large he's solid.

Originally posted by Myrik_Justiciar
Minimum snap? 60?

I wouldn't touch Snap Reaction for a run stuffing LB.

Originally posted by Myrik_Justiciar
How much speed? I'm guessing prob about 70+?

This is what I aim for. You want sideline to sideline speed. Less speed can still be alright, but then you've gotta put him in spots where it's not a hindrance, and where the SP that went elsewhere instead of speed can be more useful. So if he's a glorified d-lineman with crap tons of BRB and only 50 speed, then maybe toss some Blitz Awareness and put him at LOLB and run Shallow Sam Blitz or something.

Originally posted by Absolut Zero
This is what I aim for. You want sideline to sideline speed. Less speed can still be alright, but then you've gotta put him in spots where it's not a hindrance, and where the SP that went elsewhere instead of speed can be more useful. So if he's a glorified d-lineman with crap tons of BRB and only 50 speed, then maybe toss some Blitz Awareness and put him at LOLB and run Shallow Sam Blitz or something.



Sideline to Sideline Speed is dependent on how well your CBs handle the Run. You don't need big MLB Speed if you have Run Stuffing CBs. If you don't, then you do. Got it?

Originally posted by Absolut Zero
This doesn't make sense. First Step needs Quickness to fire, and the lower it is (especially at Silver) will mean it fires even less. I like more quickness on linebackers, 50-65 quick, depending on what you want them to do. If they've got the First Step SA, than 60+.



I get why you'd say that and I figured someone would point that out. I was just referring to how the burst of acceleration plays really well with the high top end speed. I find that more useful than bursting more often to a lower top end speed.

I definitely have a lower opinion of Quickness than most people, so your answer is probably closer to the norm.

Originally posted by Xars
Sideline to Sideline Speed is dependent on how well your CBs handle the Run. You don't need big MLB Speed if you have Run Stuffing CBs. If you don't, then you do. Got it?

Depends on defense.

If you blitz, you need the rest of your defenders to have more speed. Against teams like GA and Wrath, if my blitzing corner doesn't take them out (often doesn't, hopefully at least slows them down though) then I need LB & Safety speed to pursue to the now vacated sideline.

Originally posted by Spastic_Cowboy
I definitely have a lower opinion of Quickness than most people, so your answer is probably closer to the norm.

Who knows, a lot of people have wildly different views of quickness, and both sides operate very successful teams.

Originally posted by Absolut Zero
Depends on defense.

If you blitz, you need the rest of your defenders to have more speed. Against teams like GA and Wrath, if my blitzing corner doesn't take them out (often doesn't, hopefully at least slows them down though) then I need LB & Safety speed to pursue to the now vacated sideline.

Perhaps for you, but not for me.

I blitzed my CBs against GA, WW and Hub all day long and my ILB's have 45 Sprinting/5.4 40yd Dash. Much lower than what we are talking about here.

So it can work with lower Speed ILBs. Doesn't mean it will though for other situations.